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Written by rosalind renshaw

As reported on Estate Agent Today, the founder of OneMove, Neil Patel, is now believed to be in Canada.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to issue an update because the website seems – rather like Neil Patel himself – to have vanished. In his blog, lifeafteronemove, we heard how Patel was enjoying the high life in Winnipeg, playing golf, swimming, eating at a top restaurant and planning how to make his next fortune.

Back in England, the number of county court judgements obtained against the company has grown. His public relations firm is the latest to have filed one.

We are also hearing from agents who would like to speak to Neil Patel.

These include an agent who says he paid £500 a month to belong to the OneMove network, but claims he has lost out because of the association. The agent alleges that OneMove sold data to do with his sellers to various other firms that could have profited from conveyancing and Home Information Pack business. The agent says that sellers have not appreciated their details being sold on, that he has lost instructions and been banned from advertising in his local newspaper.

Clearly, we would like to give OneMove the right of reply but unfortunately have no way of contacting him.

If anyone reading this knows how we can contact Neil Patel, we would very much appreciate this. We would also be keen to hear from others who have had experience of dealing with OneMove. This is not for publication, but to help us build a picture of what has been going on.

Please email in complete confidence rosalind.renshaw@estateagenttoday.co.uk or, if you prefer, call her on 01252 843566.  We promise that no details will be printed without your specific consent.

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    New business website that he created is new trap for new people who don't know him. www.propertydealtoday.com

    Don't trust this guy. He will take away you money and give nothing.

    • 18 January 2013 18:44 PM
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    propertydealtoday.com so watch out you don't get stung you are right boss.

    propertydealtoday.com is one more weapon he uses to destroy peoples homes and not paying them. propertydealtoday.com in winnipeg lauches is fraud company in the new year

    #onemove_neil_patel
    #www.propertydealtoday.com
    #webidiotz

    • 16 January 2013 18:55 PM
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    Right anyone in the property industry - he has a new property business - www.propertydealtoday.com so watch out you dont get stung

    #onemove_neil_patel
    #www.propertydealtoday.com
    #webidiotz

    • 23 November 2012 10:52 AM
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    this neil patel is a bigger cheater, liar, owner of webidiotz

    i didnt get my money

    mohdumair

    • 01 August 2012 20:21 PM
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    This man is a devil,
    please read on.......
    never mind all the people he has cheated in the uk, he has not paid staff taken loans on staff's name and left them in the shit and caused at least 2 divorces.
    he has put numerious people in to financial difficulities.
    This Man who looks like a human has cheated his own mum and dad in leicester uk, he forgredley sighned their paperwork and took a remortgage on thei property his dad is 62 and mum about 60 and this scum has taken there life savings and made them virtually homless as he has take a loan in their names by a forged signiture.
    his mum and dad who are very innocent people are going door to door now asking people for help as their son has put them in so much trouble.
    now it is his mum and dads age to relax as they have worked honestley for over 35 years and he is making them cry...
    so to understand this man if he is happy to put his own honest genuine mum and dad through hell who are all we.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE becarefull of this man he is so fake and convincing it is easy to get sucked in to him

    only god will able to deal with this unhuman man who is in the form of a human.

    thank you

    • 21 March 2012 21:44 PM
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    He now has a new business Internet Media Champ (part of Webidiotz) http://www.internetmediachamp.com. Anyone want to see what Neil is up to? https://www.facebook.com/#!/neilpatelwinnipeg

    • 07 December 2011 20:02 PM
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    I sent an email to the guy for some advice to drive traffic. He replied and agree to help for free. All I got was a bunch of bullshiet and trying to convince me to pay him money. This guy is a total SCAM!!!

    His info.
    Neil Patel (marketing guru)
    crazyegg.com (my boss)
    quicksprout.com (my blog)

    neil@neilpatel.com (I get way too many emails)
    (562) 292-3834 home (best way to reach me)
    (562) 237-2515 cell (I never check my voicemail)
    (888) 227-3913 office (you'll never reach me here)
    (714) 516-8286 fax (what's a fax?)

    • 28 April 2011 19:46 PM
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    Well looks like Neil has been at it again, Manitoba 1000 was his new one move, it seems to have finshed, not paid the bills and no post for months, redirected to facebook. His brand new venture to ripped off new clients is Bling your Biz.

    Someone please stop this guy

    • 24 February 2011 01:19 AM
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    Found the scam artist Neil Patel on http://twitter.com/webidiotz
    He is already cheating people in Winnipeg

    • 31 January 2011 04:47 AM
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    Neil Patel: "Been awake planning the UK launch of Webidiotz learnt many things in the past few hours which will help the launch of our services." Amazed he can have a business in the UK after what he has done...

    • 03 October 2010 21:47 PM
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    Other one is Manitoba 1000 - same scam as OneMove - different industry.

    • 22 November 2009 23:01 PM
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    And the scam continues in Canada. Neil is as said above a liar and a scam. He is attempting to run a company in Winnipeg Canada called WebIdiotz. Starting to run up debt, lies to people sounds like the same thing.

    • 18 October 2009 15:46 PM
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    The guy is an arrogant fool,you cant expect a business to continue in a falling market when your income is only a tenth of your monthly expenditure and your cashflow is negative,it doesnt matter what spin you put on it,its not gonna work.

    • 04 March 2009 21:34 PM
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    • 11 January 2009 00:03 AM
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    • 09 January 2009 10:23 AM
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    He knowingly has put some company assets into storage - illegal. Oh and dont believe the bull about his wife and kids - he frequently cheats on her - and thats a fact!!

    • 04 December 2008 11:26 AM
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    I worked for the idiot (Neil Patel) for some time... i have to say (and LOTS of others have said to me since) he was an overblown short bloke who thought he was Richard Branson.

    • 06 October 2008 03:35 AM
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    Dear Neil Patel, when I said you had a gift for the gab I was referring to your very first lengthy reply. The brightmove.co.uk business model is very different to the Onemove proposition ie it does not rip off Estate Agents!

    • 19 September 2008 12:43 PM
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    To Neil Patel. My comments are not slanderous but do feel free to stick your legal team on notice, after all how much more publicity do you need right now?!! Why do you think my business hinges around agents? It doesn't! You seem to have a lot of anger, I genuinely don't care that OneMove keeled over- its not the first and won't be last to try something similar and fail. Your attempt to draw analogies with larger companies like AIG and HBOS is slightly disconcerting. The collapse/propping up of these companies together with a handful investment banks is unfortunate since its plain we will never the lesson that the quick buck is rarely the right option. I was part of a company that floated and then imploded blowing 550mil back in 2001-02 so you could say I've learned a great deal from watching the mistakes of others from inside that company! Being inside the telecomms boom and bust was very useful first-hand experience to understand what is happening right now and how its likely to play out. Feel free to run a feature on me, a man of your calibre should be able to find pictures of me on the web with some ease I have to say! Make it accurate though, or I'd only be obliged to run my own article and give it epic coverage in the trade press and beyond. Thats the upside of being a professional, we do things corectly and accurately! Your OneMove model was interesting, but I didn't feel that it really linked into the behaviour of your average independent estate agency office. There is huge distrust in agency to put your faith in company to deliver all those solutions was always going to be ambitious unless you got a raft of corporate clients signed up right from the off to help bankroll the extensive advertising campaign needed to drive growth. The fact I didn't like your business model doesn't detract from the fact that you tried to make it work and I always respect hard work (I work 90-100 hour weeks). Anyway, have fun, and best of luck with the baby!

    • 18 September 2008 10:13 AM
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    Neil Kurz - mud slinging, so you spend your entire afternoon making up slanderous, potentailly liable personal comments when you received a full refund from OneMove. You wasn't in any way affected by OneMove and you get a frank and honest response and you think you can call it mud slinging, please!

    • 18 September 2008 02:24 AM
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    regulation or licencing wether you would make past first post or not isn't for me to judge. That's the image your are giving to any one reading this. Being educated and professional come with responsibilty of respect and a level of discretion. Something your action show you lack, succesfull people brag less themselves and let there actions speak for themselves. Whilst your in bed AIG has been bailed out for 84 billion dollars, HBOS has been aquired by Lloyds. Now you have more directors to call stupid and tell that there business models were CRAP, a very intelligent word from a professional. What really is sound advice is focus on your six businesses as you will find a few of them fail. Stop gloating on others honest failures, crap business ideas and enjoy your success as long as it last as from some of the emails I have receieved today doesn't put you in such a perfect light. Please send me a photo of you as your comment of calling other agents stupid will be a feature and we want to make sure we use the right photo. Intelligent comment considering all your work comes from these stupid people.

    • 18 September 2008 02:13 AM
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    To Neil Patel re: Licencing and not getting past first post.

    In what why would I struggle? Professional, educated, not a fly-by night, already member of professional organisation with real barriers to entry. It was rather a mud-slinging comment by you, but amuse me, in what way would I not be considered for a licence? Do I not break enough rules? Do we have a problem having an agency offices stuffed full of professionals, most of who have degrees/Charterships, some even have more than one ;o)

    • 18 September 2008 12:19 PM
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    Hi Neil I do remember the conversation but there was more to it then that. I am also happy for you and your six businesses, it’s not my nature to mock others or actually be disappointed when someone is successful. Owning companies is about making money, (PROFIT) whilst we know about OneMove, what are your six companies doing? Also take a look online as to your service record with a few customers, Neil Douglas Estate Agents. Do not expect me to sit here whilst you think making fun of others seems to be you’re past time. Some times it will come back to bite you when you least expect it. As I said earlier on today my response was simply to correct the lairs and false stories. If you want to continue this then lets do it at www.propertynewstoday.com. Otherwise I wish you the best of luck in making your great businesses a success and never making a MISTAKE.

    • 17 September 2008 09:41 AM
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    Brightmove - not such a bright move, what has defending the facts got to do with having a gift of the GAB. It does'nt take much to see how some of your customers are raving about your POOR service online. Are the minority that stupid don;t be fooling enough to think that you are perfect. Not sure where you fit into in this que but hey, you must be the one not selling houses and making it even further to ruin your business my acting like a idiot. www.ratedestateagents.com

    • 17 September 2008 09:33 AM
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    To Neil Patel: Oh you are back! We've actually spoken on the phone Neil, when I called to say what an earth were your useless sales team doing when my agency wwas trying to sign up with your deal with ExpertAgent deal. I got my refund (after some chasing) but I'm not shocked your company crashed.

    As for me, yeah, I must be 'nothijng to do', yeah righto! Let me see, I have 6 companies, 2000 DEA/HIs on the books, we have carried out many thousands of EPCs, we do sales, rental, block management, commercial and domestic EPCs. I'll let you know when you can teach me something about property eh? By the way, if we sell no houses for the rest of 2008, our agency will still be open and trying to find buyers to trade, if other agents thought like me, they wouldn't be closing up on daily basis would they?

    Looks like we'll be taking over another agents stock next week, we must be rubbish eh?

    This is simply a natural contraction of the overall market, exasabated by the stupidity of agents who over-expanded and spent like no tomorrow proving how 'big' they were. The only 'big' thing they have left now is the outstanding VAT bill which remains unpaid. Shame!

    • 17 September 2008 08:51 AM
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    Neil Patel appears to do a lot of talking. Obviously thinks he has a gift of the gab. When I spoke to his sales rep - I'm afraid he did not convince me and I must say I am not surprised this outfit has gone belly up!

    • 17 September 2008 08:31 AM
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    Neil Kurz - Agreed i have been a huge fan of licensing or regulation of our industry, you would'nt get past first post.

    • 17 September 2008 06:11 AM
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    Sean McMahon - Thanks for your message, but i have all the emails regarding your website being down, an email from your local paper as to why you could'nt advertise and why you needed a cheque from me before it was due. Nothing to do with getting out early. So stop the personal insults before you end up with very serious legal issue and get on with running your business. Mocking me or my business is one thing but making lies up is some thing i will NOT tolerate. Why call yourself OneMove Estate Agents

    Sean McMahon

    One Move Estate Agents

    Thomas & Rose Group

    • 17 September 2008 05:28 AM
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    Message for Neil Kurz - Wether it was a bad idea or not. I am looking for any remorse or sympathy from any one. I will let people work the truth out but you are clearly some one who has no idea or even direction of how to deal with our industry which has changed for ever. You sound like someone who has nothing to do and hates any innovation. Thank god you are the minority as if you was'nt our industry would die.

    • 17 September 2008 05:16 AM
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    OneMove is a limited company and there are legal channels for all to communicate through. Silence until now has been driven by OneMove's lawyers upon reading the last article written by EAT a response has been composed.

    The facts are that in March 08 OneMove Ltd was purchased back from OneMove Tech. In the process 5.6m shares were personally sold back. This was a large risk - giving up a secure salary and no personal debt and upon the puchase took on a huge amount of debt. The company was bleeding in excess of 100,000 pounds and it seemed possible to turn things around with a change in direction and product. Funding was secured twice but due to the market changes both investors pulled out. The business model was built on X leads and Y converts as the transaction model. It doesn't take a genius to work out what went wrong. At one point OneMove was paying for advertising for some agents who couldn't pay their monthly fees or deliver the minimum quota of business as per their contracts.


    OneMove failed. But look around - banks, insurance, retail, leisure and other industries got it wrong many boards failed to see this and i don't stand alone in saying the current state of the economy is not FUNNY or just NEWS, it is a reality that we all must deal with. The sorry,misguided agent who called it a 'scam' is misguided and this quote is slanderous. The database was sold to two lawyers as we have many clients who needed moving services. This is a common business practise - Zoom AirLines went bust and did the same.

    In regards to the site, OneMove did not own the domain or brand it is held with OneMove Tech so this was not in OneMove's control. As the CEO I personally emailed all agents who were members to point out the fact that at the end OneMove had less than 10 branches as members and less than 5 were actually valid members as over the months or weeks agents could not deliver their monthly quota.

    Please note that in EAT news release today an agent who claims to be a 'victim' of OneMove, that same agent received money from OneMove and then cancelled their membership. This same agent now calls himself OneMove Estate Agency.


    OneMove was losing money, being funded by me personally, my family and friends. I did not run away with a single penny of money in fact the business owed me and my family hundreds of thousands of pounds. A member of staff also lost money through investing into the company, a few staff didn't get their redundancy money. It is a disappointed for all. OneMove is one in millions of businesses globally to have gone and going through this, presently there are 1000's in the industry going through this.

    On a personal note, I would like to point out that this is starting to look like a personal attack and very much a invasion of my privacy. I'm not sure how taking my wife on her 30th birthday to a restaurant at 6 months pregnant is news, or me playing golf for the first time in 2 years is illegal or wanting to learn from my mistakes at OneMove and make a success of a new start is wrong.

    My 'shock' move to Canada or as EAT states 'vanish', needs to be corrected. My wife is Canadian and her family live here. My wife was the leading factor in moving to Canada as she felt that now, having very young children and another on the way, was the time to be close to family. The world is too small, even smaller with the web, I have not run away, or in hiding and directed to the comment by the agent about immigration - I am living in Canada legally with a work permit, with the full knowledge of Canadian immigration. I have done nothing criminal or illegal, and for it even to be suggested is slanderous to say the least.


    Putting my family first and writing a few innocent lines of my experience in a new country and a new beginning are being sensationlized to make it look like I am hiding or vanished are inaccurate and ludicrous.

    OneMove Ltd has ceased to trade and is currently exploring correct avenues to dissolve.

    • 17 September 2008 04:17 AM
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    Sorry but I will show NO sympathy for Neil Patel here or anywhere else, the model set up was rotten. I have only been kicking about in agency for a few years but bring business experience from other sectors and it was abundently clear that his model of free software (ExpertAgent), free marketing for agents in the local papers and OneMove's income was simply based on conveyancing, HIP and other referral fees was rotten to the core. It was a crap idea then, its still a crap idea now.

    Another reason for introducing licencing to agency, to stop the gullible and stupid from entering this industry and falling for stupid scams. Was Neil Patel spending his own money on magazine wrap-arounds month-in month-out or was it Venture Capital? Either way, it was a stupid move, regardless of prevailing market conditions.

    Agency is essentially a localised cottage industry and isn't going to fundamentally change from that in my opinion.

    • 17 September 2008 03:37 AM
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    • 17 September 2008 03:35 AM
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    More digging from good old face book shows Mr Patel's personal email as neil@neilpatel.co.uk you might want to try him on that? I'm sure he never planned to fail, I believe his intentions were to help make money for all. Lots of agents lost out when OM went pop but none more than Neil Patel. Please bear that in mind when chasing him.

    • 17 September 2008 12:40 PM
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    Has anyone tried Martin Johnson? he’s the CEO of Onemove technology - The Canadian PLC which bought OM from Neil Patel last year for Neil to buy back several months later. Martin.Johnson@onemovetech.com - Suite 1080 1140 West Pen V6E 4G1 Vancouver BC Canada www.onemovetech.com

    • 17 September 2008 12:24 PM
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    Dear Sir/Madam, I had my property up for sale with a local agent who had association with one-move. Over the past two months I have had a flood of emails and letters from Solicitors offering their services to assist mt move and debt related agencies offering everything from a short term loan at 100% interest to 'we can solve all your problems'. It seems that Mr Patel sold his database to a lot of people. Hope he goes and plays with the bears while in Canada after all one can't get enough of a good thing. The details you hold should be sent to the section dealing with immigration at Canadian High Commissiont for Canada in Grosvenor Sq, London. Kind regards Frank Monti

    • 17 September 2008 11:55 AM
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    I got a refund from OneMove the moment they didn't deliver adequate service- is my refund a unique experience I wonder? :o)

    • 17 September 2008 11:08 AM
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    The enticement of one agent, one location and paid local press advertising was obviously too good to be true like many other scams!

    • 16 September 2008 08:27 AM
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