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AnonymousCoward

Company: Fine & Country Surrey
Website: www.fineandcountrysurrey.com
Are you an agent? yes
Do I do lettings? yes
Do I do sales? yes
Do I do overseas sales or lettings? Sales
Job title: Owner
Supplier: no
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What do I do? Sell posh houses


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278 comments

Posted Date: Monday 13th September 2010
Don't shoot me but I think Rightmove is exceptional value for money, even at their increased prices (NO I don't work for them). The user experience (ie buyers) is excellent. The tools for agents (Best Price Guide, etc) are really useful. The ability to track your competitors is fantastic. It is also cobnsiderably better than the competition (PL, Globrix, et al). All for less than of a third of what I used to pay for the local newspaper. I am a hobby web designer and it really is one of the best websites out there.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th September 2010
I would love it here. We have one very dominant agent who is also a bit a 'naughty' with his boards too. I'm not whinging about him being dominant - he's a really good agent - but not seeing his boards all over the town would be great for me. Of course I can also see it from his perspective...
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Posted Date: Monday 20th September 2010
I'm not really surprised, agents have fallen straight back in to the trap of over valuing to get the instruction. Every sensible vendor will survey RM to find out how much theirs is worth before they get it valued by 3 agents, so can also see prices "rising". The exuberance of the Spring coupled with a nervous summer gives us prices falling.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 22nd September 2010
I think that the one thing that everyone forgets is that there is a huge difference between National and Local. When you take an average of property transactions across the country then you will find property prices falling because most of the sales will be at the average price where the effects of falling income multiples and rising deposit requirements have the most impact. The average buyer of the average £750,000 house has WAY more cash behind them and is barely notices the problems raising mortgage finance that others have. This is a purely local matter as F&C only deal with the top quartile.
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Posted Date: Friday 15th October 2010
I've got to say that I think that this is very, VERY funny. Remember Caveat Emptor - Let the buyer beware. A home owner is "buying" the services of the agent they employ - it is just a shame that their own greed and vanity often get the better of them so they WANT to be lied to by unscrupulous over valuing estate agents. They expect it and WANT it. Oh well, nevermind!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 3rd November 2010
Property prices will fall in the UK (the South East in particular) only when the repossessions start. I remember the early 90's when for a period of a month I worked for an ordinary high street agent and attended at least 1 repossession per day in North & East London. Interest rates will rise, probably in 2012, and then we may see the repo's start and prices really fall, none of this namby pamby 0.2% price drop that we see at the moment, but real whole percentage points.
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Posted Date: Friday 12th November 2010
As Baldrick once said: "DOOM! DOOOM! DOOOOM! DOOOOOM!". That said though, prices will slowly correct downwards over the next couple of years by 3%-5%. Inflation (that's RPI not the other crap) is 4-5% which gives a real world annual price drop of about 10%. 2 to 3 years of that is a REAL WORLD drop in property prices of about 25%. No big crash, no horrible pain. It happened in the 70s, again in the 80s and even in the 90s.
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Posted Date: Friday 12th November 2010
As Baldrick once said: "DOOM! DOOOM! DOOOOM! DOOOOOM!". That said though, prices will slowly correct downwards over the next couple of years by 3%-5%. Inflation (that's RPI not the other crap) is 4-5% which gives a real world annual price drop of about 10%. 2 to 3 years of that is a REAL WORLD drop in property prices of about 25%. No big crash, no horrible pain. It happened in the 70s, again in the 80s and even in the 90s.
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Posted Date: Friday 28th January 2011
The funny thing is that Google Maps does this for free... Type "Estate Agents in A Random Town" into Google and it can show you a map of where they are, with a business listing and reviews provided by the public. I know Google have just dumped property, but they are hell for leather for advertising businesses on maps, especially as more mobile phones become internet active and location aware. Best thing all of us can do is claim ownership of our business listings, add details of what you do and some pretty pictures and then get your (younger?) customers to leave reviews there. It may not matter just yet, but I bet it will in 2 or 3 years... Happy Googling!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 9th February 2011
There are SOOO many times I would have loved to have responded to a whinging, whining, halfwit of a purchaser who has had unrealistic "TV" expectations of buying a property. It is rare that property transactions are simple - the mark of a good agent is to make it LOOK like it is. But sometimes things go wrong, particularly with leasehold flats like this one. All you can do is pick yourself up and move on, putting it down to experience.
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Posted Date: Friday 18th February 2011
Before you read the rest of this please don't think I work for Rightmove or for their PR department. Rightmove (and RightmovePLUS) are brilliant. If you (the agent) put in the effort (or have good computer software...) your properties are presented BRILLIANTLY to the buying and (possibly more importantly) the selling public. The USER (ie your customers) experience is amazing and gives them every opportunity to decide to view (or not). I personally believe that it is GREAT value for money, certainly when you compare it to TDPG (FAP, Primelocation, etc). I know that everyone here (bar the odd exception) thinks they are being ripped off, but I think that is utter rubbish. If you cannot see the value in it, cancel your subscription. I do think some of their "added extras" are hugely overpriced however, we tried the banner advert for ages and found absolutely no benefit at all. We also tried the featured agent & featured property and couldn't work out if there was any benefit so stopped.
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Posted Date: Friday 18th February 2011
U-turn if you want to...
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Posted Date: Monday 21st February 2011
I love these statistics. One of my favourites is the shortfall in properties. From memory (which may be mistaken) I seem to think that there are well over 500,000 empty residential properties in the UK. The idea that people stay with mum & dad because there aren't any houses to buy is a fallacy. Right now their wages cannot support a mortgage of an adequate size as income multiples have dropped and they have not been able to save up enough deposit as LTV requirements have changed. Before, the average first time buyer was "priced out of the market" by Buy To Let investors who were lent money by irresponsible banks on unsustainable terms. Poor decisions made by the people we all voted in to power allowed this to happen. Housing policy has been a shambles for decades - but it isn't going to get better anytime soon.
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Posted Date: Monday 21st February 2011
For years part of my patter as a valuer has included the following: "There are three ways for an estate agent to win your busines Mr & Mrs Vendor: 1. To be a good agent, be honest truthful. 2. To charge a cheap fee. 3. To value your property for a little bit more." They ALWAYS agree with me that options 2 and 3 are probably not a good way to proceed - yet it doesn't stop them. Vendors NEED to hear the truth, but that is often exactly what they don't WANT to hear. I try to be a good boy, I really do, but I know that if I do not have the instruction, I will not earn the fee. I have just lost an instruction to a 0.5% merchant who has added £25k on top of the owners' already inflated expectations. She knows we sold the last 2 in the building, she knows that the market is poor, she knows that she will only get one chance to put the property on the market "for the first time" since it was built, she knows that the other agent doesn't accompany viewings, do nice photos, a floorplan or any of the other things that make the difference. She even agreed with me on my valuation patter. But I still lost the instruction. What are you supposed to do? Sometimes I put it down to experience, sometimes I get a bit annoyed! Baseball bats at dawn anyone?
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Posted Date: Monday 21st February 2011
I thought the HIP was fantastic, not for what it did or did not have in it, but because every vendor had to pay it because it was too expensive for the agent to swallow. That meant that you got paid up front to put something on the market, and if you were clever managed to get floorplans and stuff included in it. But it also meant that the owner was 100% committed - because who would stump up £500 if they weren't. I was so annoyed when it went (as I am sure are a lot of HIP companies and DEAs - sorry I was being very selfish...).
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Posted Date: Wednesday 23rd February 2011
The one question I have for vendors when ALL the agents are online and charge £250 to sell your house is: "Whose going to value your house for you?" Coz you won't get "free market appraisals" any more. The REAL skill of an agent is to get better than market price - even if that better is just a few pounds. Then they help the sale go through (a good agent that is). I work in a high street where the two major players will do it for free if they have to, to stop the other one getting the instruction. I know this is true, because I used to be the valuer for one of them. Mental? The owner didn't think so. I disagreed which is why I now own the agency across the road that does far less volume but at much, much higher fees. I take home more money now...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 23rd February 2011
Sorry, I think I might be a bit thick. How does a profit of: £54.1m in 2009 compared to: £48m in 2010 equate to an INCREASE in profit of 22%. I did GCSE maths don't you know - you can't fool me that easily... Even if you swap the numbers over (sorry Ros - I'm sure it's not your fault) that still only makes an increase of about 11%.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 23rd February 2011
Forgive me - I couldn't resist... Why dont you all just..... No - sorry; I just couldn't do it. Love & kisses
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Posted Date: Wednesday 23rd February 2011
I went for Anonymous Coward because I thought it would be funny (!) - my profile gives you my website if you want to know more about me (?)...
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Posted Date: Monday 7th March 2011
To be honest, I am surprised it is that high. The whole HIP debacle was based around John Prescott's idea to get an energy rating for every building in every member state of the EU (Kyoto Protocol 1997 enforced 2005 - Housing Act 2004). When the government realised how much it would cost for them to do it, they hid it inside the Home Information Pack. It has NOTHING to do with buyers or sellers, it never did
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Posted Date: Monday 7th March 2011
Oh god! Does that really mean that I have to put up with my (adorable?) brats for another 25 years?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 9th March 2011
For goodness' sake! Forgive me, I know I am going to sound a bit elitist, but... WTF? £11k on a £1m+ transaction - I don't think that anyone that CARES to spend that kind of money in this kind of market is going to be in the slightest bit bothered. Certainly not to the extent of committing mortgage fraud... Sounds like a PR story about nothing to me.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 16th March 2011
Time to join the RICS I think. Mind you I quite the NAEA in 2003 because I just didn't see the value in it...
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Posted Date: Friday 18th March 2011
An average of 7 viewings per day (assuming Sundays worked too) . Assuming agreed price exchanges (£2.2m) and they are charging 1.5% they get a fee of £33k - or there abouts. Which means that each viewing was worth £227. Do you know what? I would prefer to do 10 viewings on a house for £350,000 charging 1%... But there's me being grumpy again.
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Posted Date: Friday 18th March 2011
I used to work for a franchise of Winkworth's YEARS ago - so no doubt it's all changed, but it is just that, a franchise. If you can't make it as an independent (spelling?) in your area - why would rebranding as a franchise with all the extra cost save you?
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Posted Date: Friday 18th March 2011
And all those Victorian terraces that people in London fall over themselves to buy is what then... Inspired, individually architect crafted unique one off homes? New build is new build - wherever in the world you are, unless you go and buy a single plot newbuild...
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Posted Date: Friday 18th March 2011
Too true - give me the money!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 30th March 2011
I agree with rantnrave FFS and BA make very valid points. I have spoken to some local colleagues in Surrey and we are all seeing more come on the market with no buyers to take them. There are several agent near me who seem to be trying as hard as possible to commit commercial suicide by over pricing and under feeing - that's just crazy. We now charge 50% more than the local average and ask for a £600+VAT non refundable up front fee. Do you think I'm crazy? I don't - it scares away the numpties and really commits the serious ones. We have not lost one property that was worth losing by doing this. If it doesn't sell then all I have lost is a bit of time that I would have been staring out of the window. It will never make me a profit, but at least I am not paying for vendors' unrealistic expectations. I thoroughly recommend it to you all. Oh how I miss HIPs
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Posted Date: Wednesday 30th March 2011
No I've just had a very interesting chat with my mortgage adviser... One of my FTBs can only get 4 x salary to get to £210k. She reckons that she would easily have got him to £300k before. She also says that he is squeaky clean, has a good deposit and no skeletons. To me that looks like a 30% reduction in the amount of money he can afford to spend. Prices just have to drop. They haven't yet because no-one is being repossessed I guess. Pray the interest rates don't rise.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 30th March 2011
My god, does that mean that I won't be able to buy myself a new Mercedes/ BMW/ Jag (delete as applicable)? Have to say better to take less money home than no money home.
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Posted Date: Thursday 31st March 2011
EVERYTHING inside me tells me that if prices in your area have not fallen by 25% then you are still in the middle of a property price bubble - it is just taking longer to burst. I work in Surrey (part inside and part outside the M25)and it is a market split in 4. Below £300k - ouch, now that's painful - only sales completing are between VERY motivated vendors and either investors offering LOW or FTBs tapping the bank of mum & dad but at a big price reduction. £300-£600k - lots of sales being agreed at 10% below asking, many falling through. £600-900k - not doing too badly actually, buyers usually in rented, often kicking themselves for getting out of the market in 2008 (for a low price) and feeling they have no choice but to jump back in now at a higher price having wasted a bucketload of cash in the middle. £900k+ - very area specific, great if you have a good house in a good road, but awful otherwise. There are so few REAL buyers at this price range at the moment that 3-4 houses on the market in the same price bracket completely screws the market.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 13th April 2011
Oh god - just get on with it already. It is important to know for environmental reasons - but for god's sake we are wasting so much ENERGY on it.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 13th April 2011
meh... colour me suitably unimpressed.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 13th April 2011
I want a survey of surveys - maybe that'll sort it out. There are lies, damned lies & statistics
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Posted Date: Wednesday 13th April 2011
I say good luck to them - why not... From what I can tell we are all going to need it.
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Posted Date: Monday 18th April 2011
Don't just blame estate agents - vendors are perfectly complicit in the process of over pricing. The number of times that an owner has agreed with me about how good my service is, that they want to instruct me but they want to ask my price +£20k / +£50k, etc. The worst case recently I turned round to him to say no, but we could perhaps do a guide price of £1.5m he said ok and then proceeded to propose a commission structure based on performance - which I am happy with, but the commission was only worthwhile if I achieved £200k above asking. I think the house is worth £1.4m - if he is lucky, but £100k negotiating room is the same as £10k at £150k so not an outrageous OOT asking, but his expectations are mental.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 20th April 2011
Personally, I think that you do not need to provde applicants with a printed copy, you just have to provide them with the report. On your details you can have the energy graph and a weblink to the full report. If they want it they can print it for themselves. Likewise, my postal bill is a fraction of what it used to be because I email details to customers - these could have the report in full, or just the graph and an active weblink. Should a buyer have an offer accepted I would then print them out. Another nail in the coffin of the Royal Mail perhaps because we refuse to print details unless we go on a viewing? Whilst the wording appears to be somewhat draconian, I have a feeling that as long as you keep to the spirit of law, Trading Standards are hardly going to come and go to the effort of doing anything other than fining you £100. At current print costs (6 pence per page in black & white) a 5 page EPC would cost 30 pence - or 333 sets of details. Why bother - the chances of getting caught are vanishingly small.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 27th April 2011
I think that the current government (without admitting to it because the just can't) will allow the affects of inflation at 4 point something percent coupled with a modest fall in house prices of a couple of percent per year to "sort out" the housing market. It will take 5-7 years as Mark suggests. It's a bit like ripping a plaster off a particularly hairy leg one hair at a time. The alternative is a return to the early 90's where in one, three week period I presided over the repossession of at least one house per day. Which is better...?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 27th April 2011
For you, and the greater good of all, definitely. But Mr & Mrs Average would almost certainly disagree.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 27th April 2011
Cut the blue wire, not the red wire...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 27th April 2011
Now there was me trying to posh it up a bit...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 4th May 2011
So in 2010 there were 7,185 houses sold for more than £1m. That is 54% more than in 2009, which means that 4,666 house were sold for more than £1m that year. Cool. Except that 7,185 out of 184,000 is 3.9% of the stock levels. That's really, really low.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 4th May 2011
Got to say I love Rightmove, and as I have said several times on this website, I think they are very reasonably priced in comparison to newspapers, etcetera. (I do not work for RM or a big corporate BTW).
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Posted Date: Wednesday 4th May 2011
Tumbleweed down the high street was our experience, we opened on the Saturdays but were otherwise closed. Oh, and the weather was fab, so sitting in the garden was much better than sitting in a hot office playing solitaire.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 11th May 2011
Aaaaarrrrrgh! Yes estate agents don't help the situation - we ALL know that. But unrealistic vendors are the real problem - they no prices are going down (BUT not in my road...) REGARDLESS of the asking price you tell an owner if you admit the market is rubbish and not many houses are selling and QUALITY viewings are few and far between YOU WILL NOT GET INSTRUCTED. That is because they have no respect for our profession. So, what happens is you go in, tell the owner what they want to hear and cross your fingers - we have absolutely no choice I have tried to do it properly all year, politely of course, but you can precis it to: Me: "Mr & Mrs Vendor do you want me to be honest with you?" Vendor: "Yes please, do be 100% honest with us - we really need to know." Me: "Well, if you are sure... Blah, blah, blah, fee, value, asking price" Vendor: "Thank you very much - of course you are right we know the market conditions are poor - that seems very sensible. We'll call you in a couple of days." A couple of days go by... Me: "Hi there, when can I come and take photos?" Vendor: "Oh, yes, well we have instructed another agent because they said a higher asking price..." . The only consolation is that at least I haven't lost money by working on a no-hoper. The one piece of advice that I can give any agents out there who find themselves in the same situation - do not call the owners for at least 8 weeks, because all you do is remind them of your lower price and if the other agent has had a low offer (and is any good) will then go on to tie it up at your price. Aaaaarrrrrgh!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 11th May 2011
Dear Trevor Not to self - read a post before replying to it. Thanks in advance Trevor
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Posted Date: Wednesday 11th May 2011
Dear Anonymous Coward Note to self - check your spelling before typing 14 and clicking submit. Thanks in advance AC
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Posted Date: Wednesday 11th May 2011
I am an estate agent - thought I would get that out of the way first. I own my own home with a mortgage that is larger than I would like (the mortgage, not the house). To me, at this moment in time, renting looks to be a very sensible option compared to buying. Where I work, rental prices are static, sale prices are dropping. Looks to me as though NOT owning a property could be quite a good idea. Scary, huh? Lending criteria make property prices 20-30% overpriced. I remember in the early 90's when the banks & BSocs stopped lending on flats above shops - which meant that prices dropped hard for that sector in particular. The only reason prices in some areas have not fallen is because there are very few repossessions. I cannot explain why London prices are going up - it seems like madness to me.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 11th May 2011
@ Bucks the trend But surely that was my whole point. Agents that were happy to charge 1/2 percent for a crap service would do anything in a good market to get instructed. You expect them suddenly to completely change their nature & character to become super honest, super nice, super decent chaps ready to give their customers a 2% service. All they know is how to do it the wrong way, super salesman style. Some will survive, some will close, but in the meantime what are the rest of us to do? Me, I just watch them waste money marketing properties that will never sell (unless I call them and remind them what the 'right' price is).
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Posted Date: Friday 13th May 2011
I've been saying this for ages. It's great that someone finally agrees with me. Scary thought... The MPC might actually raise interest rates and then all those people in arrears will be proper f**ked (I like the film Snatch - sorry!). Then of course we end up with the 25% fall in prices that the HPCers want. Sticking plaster - slow or fast?
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Posted Date: Friday 13th May 2011
@ Sibley's B'stard Child You are right and whilst I know that the best option is a short sharp shock correction, pick yourself back up and get on with it, I have a feeling that the problems with the Financial System are so bad that that is just not an option. From what I can see the sub-prime crisis moved from just the banks to a sovereign debt crisis involving whole countries and the banks too. If everyone owned up to how bad it REALLY is, the world would just go into meltdown. The ConLib government looks like it is going for the soft option of slow house price decline and modest inflation that over the course of 5 years will deliver a real terms value reduction of 25-30% in house prices, but in a way that doesn't cause a slew of repossessions and a crash. Quite clever, but takes a lot longer and means that "We are all in this together" so a lot of people who would be absolutely fine if prices crash because they either don't have a mortgage or have sensible equity levels end up "suffering" with those who were reckless. Unfair, maybe, but a very Marxist way of looking at it all. Who would have thunk that the Tories would be so nice?
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Posted Date: Friday 13th May 2011
Oh well and there was me getting the distinct impression he was good for nothing. The Apprentice - yawn!
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Posted Date: Monday 16th May 2011
I refer the hounourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago... This website has been full of comments over the last few months on this subject. Can we beat the record of 64 posts today? Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war.
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Posted Date: Monday 16th May 2011
As I have said before I like RM, particularly because of the tools they provide. I have just done a quick survey (by postcode) of properties on the market in my area for more than 10 weeks (use best price guide and set the date for the end of February). The surprising thing is how many properties have changed agents and NOT sold. Even more surprising is how many have stayed with the same agent and sold from a reduced asking price. Whatever way you look at it - it is not fair, it is not right, BUT overpricing WORKS (if you do it properly). You need to be able to organise viewings that generate low offers (real offers or "well they suggested they might pay X - a tactic used by a lot of corporates where when a buyer says didn't like it they ask "ok, but if you were going to make an offer how much would it be and why?"). After 2 weeks you review progress and generate a price reduction. Continue until under offer. If you are set up to do this, IT WORKS. Bit horrid though.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th May 2011
Right, well, (arms waving), hum, ho... [Lies, damn lies, etc...] I think the problem is that it depends on where you are. And I don't mean North or South, but more like this high street compared to the next one up the road. We are having a tough time, but surviving. I have a friend (an estate agent with a firend? I promise I'm not lying!) who runs a business next town over and he is in a terrible state and he is just as good (or bad) an agent as me with much the same principles (right price, proper fee, etc). There is less than 3 miles between the two of us and having a quick look on RM & FAP it's not just him, his local competitors are in the same boat. If that is the truth on the ground, how on earth is a statistician looking over the whole country to give an average supposed to work it out. Really, the question at the moment is should they even bother, because it is unlikely they COULD get it right.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th May 2011
I weep for the passing of HIPs, not because they made the sale process any easier but because they were a brilliant filter to make sure that a vendor was serious. It also meant that which ever agent you went on with you had to pay up front. I charge to put your house on the market (mad you say? It works for me) and HIPs made the conversation a lot easier. Oh well...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th May 2011
Post number 68 - call me TROLL. Way back at post 5 I wondered if we could beat 64 - the previous record. Thanks for all your input. ;o)
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Posted Date: Friday 20th May 2011
ALL "supply and demand" open markets are subject to boom and bust cycles. ALL of them. WITHOUT EXCEPTION and BY DEFINITION. Otherwise it is not an Open Market. Open markets are subject to irrational behaviour by the people occupying the marketplace. Not only that, the "herd mentality" is entirely rational until about 5 minutes after the peak of the market where it becomes stupid, but then becomes rational again to try and minimise your losses. What do we do about it? Sensible lending criteria and proven cash deposit levels are probably the easiest to implement and will make sure that the majority of buyers are protected. Consider, if the market falls by 10% and you have a 20% deposit, you are not wiped out. But this is then a control on the banking industry who will be restricted in the ways they can compete for business and although they have lost money this time round have been bailed out so don't care and will complain bitterly.
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Posted Date: Monday 23rd May 2011
The term bandwagon jumps to mind. I am going to sound a bit negative, but... The whole Facebook/ Twitter/ QR Code thing seems overblown to me. Consider the time required to do it properly - it is a full time job in its own right, on top of all the other stuff we do. Then consider that it has to be relevant and fresh daily/ weekly/ monthly - which is bloody hard work. The consider the numbers of potential customers it is good for. I was recently quoted this stat: the average facebook user has 300 contacts (god I feel inadequate) and each one of those contacts will have 300 contacts, ad nauseam. Therefore 1 post you make as an agent on Facebook could reach 90,000 people. Except that: 1. That assumes EVERYONE of your contacts recommends you to EVERY ONE of theirs. 2. That they are all house buyers. 3. That they are interested for more than 5 minutes. I would suggest that: 1. Not a chance 2. Not even close 3. I very much doubt it. It is important to engage with you clientele, but I have a feeling that this is a great way for Social Media Specialists to charge you for something that has no real world value and just plays on your fear of missing out. Same thing is behind why we all still advertise in the local paper - "what happens if I miss that 1 lead." What I do think it might be good for is name recognition, but how much is that worth.
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Posted Date: Monday 23rd May 2011
Still don't know the name of that idiot footballer, and still don't care. I do care that the number of calls to my office was noticebly lower than normal. Tumbleweed down the high street? Everywhere was quiet - a quick walk down the road on Saturday showed me that. Usually you have to fight through the crowds, not this last month or two.
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Posted Date: Monday 23rd May 2011
Please make this kind of thing illegal. Or something. I hate conveyancing firms, in a big way. And for GODS sake, he gets 35% of the fee for sweet FA and the conveyancer gets the rest for actually doing the work. Well, that tells me how good the service is. And yes CPL team 5 got my vote for the very, very worst bunch of ****s ever - mind you that was a couple of years ago. RANT, snarl, swear, etcetera
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th May 2011
[Just getting my zimmer frame out...] I remember back in the early 90's a whole load of surveyors getting caught by this kind of thing. They had valued a property in 1987 or 88, the market had crashed and the property had been repossessed after the owners had lived in it penniless for months. The properties were trashed and prices were at rock bottom. The surveyors were blamed for over-valuing or just doing a drive-by or missing structural movement or whatever. As a surveyor, you can only value for the moment, for that day and what happens in 6 months or 6 years is of no consequence. But of course, you have your notes and comparables handy to prove your due diligence, so in the end, if you did your job right, it is not a problem.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 1st June 2011
{sobs...} Deep breath, suck it up and carry on. I think I'll close down and open up next week as a laundrette (the opposite of what an old boss of mine once did). Yes prices are 25% too high. Massive crash or slow decline? The government has laid in the course of a 10 year slow decline. Whilst a price crash would help all us agents, in the context of the world financial stage it is a complete non-starter.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th June 2011
Refused an instruction today. Did my comparables, worked out that the owners price "But I got that as my asking price in 2007 and prices haven't dropped round here". I reckon the owners' price is a good 30% above reality. So I thought "I'll save myself some money and time" and refused to take it on the market. The funny thing is that I don't think prices have dropeed that much, just that he was lucky to get the offer last time and unlucky not to exchange contracts. Knowing the type of person he is too, I reckon the reason the sale fell through was because of him, not his buyer. "Life? Don't talk to me about life!" - Marvin the paranoid android
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th June 2011
Is it just me or does RENTAL GUARANTEE = DODGY RENTAL INVESTMENT? Call me cynical, I suppose...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th June 2011
Touting for me, when I count the hours, petrol, paper, postage & effort, has I think not made me a penny. Yes I have got instruction that have sold. Yes, I have been quite successful at it. BUT, it costs a fortune (50p per 2nd class letter or £1 for a brochure). Or 40p per mile AND a letter or brochure. Surely the only UNETHICAL thing is persuading the owner to break a sole agency agreement... I work in a town where everyone signs up on a 12 week contract (sort of, ish). The only benefit of touting before week 9 is persuading the owner that the price reduction that their current agent has just asked for is justified. Therefore, wait for the last two weeks (use Rightmove Best Price Guide - put in the postcode and it will tell you when it cam on the market) or have a huge database of instructions noted when they come on. THEN tout them, professionally and honestly. Personally though, in all the years I have been doing it, I would say I have probably spent more money and time on doing it than I have ever got out of it. And I have worked for (or owned) several different types of agent including corporates (with their letters 1-7). Got to say, that if they didn't even call you in for a valuation in the first place (so you don't have their number) then it is going to be an uphill struggle. Sometimes I just wonder if it is "make-work".
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th June 2011
I think the "sub" has disappeared and it is now just plain "judice". Dive....dive...dive! Sorry - one of those mornings. On a more serious note Everyone (nearly) seems to have got what they deserve... The perps are either on the run or going to jail. And it lloks as though the Money Laundering Regulations may have helped - or not.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th June 2011
@rantnrave has a great point - 6th up from the bottom. Prices go up, prices go down. When they go down, the rungs in the ladder get closer together. 20% of £250,000 is £50,000. 20% of £500,000 is £100,00. So, and this is the important bit: if you have enough equity and you save in between purchases then it doesn't matter and when the price goes down you can jump up. The problem is that the banks persuaded us to borrow too much money. Me, I blame one man and his name is Gordon Brown. I really do think he should be sent to jail for his complicit "light touch" approach to banking that allowed for the trade of the CDOs (collateralised debt obligations) that got us where we are today. Now that's a proper RANT and RAVE... (smiles) ;->
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th June 2011
I hate call centre solicitors - HATE I tell you. They are fine when the going is easy, but when is it easy - 10% of sales? I have always recommended a good local solicitor - always one who is not cheap and not expensive. Why, not for referral fees, that's for sure - but because they are GOOD. It makes my job so much easier and lets me get on with my REAL job of selling houses. I currently have a running sale agreed 1st week of Feb on a simple 2 bed flat. Both solicitors are cheapy panel jobs and it is an effing nightmare - after 4 months, neither solicitor had bothered to raise the question of management accounts. What is that about. Solicitor "Thank you for your instructions. So it's a flat - I'm going to need a copy of the lease and management accounts..." Surely that is in the first 5 things a solicitor should ask about. AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
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Posted Date: Monday 20th June 2011
As a great philosopher once said: "D'Oh!"
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Posted Date: Wednesday 22nd June 2011
I was about a long diatribe. But it has all been said before. The only thing that occurred to me was "That few?" Surely, even in the posh bits in London, for normal property (i.e. stuff that doesn't appeal to international investors) prices will be on their way down... Negative equity relates to the amount you owe on the mortgage, not on the amount you paid for it, so I suppose that potentially what it means is that anyone who took out a 90 or 95% mortgage is in trouble. Or the ones with second loans to pay off their credit cards?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 22nd June 2011
I just can't get the image of Vic Reeves rubbing his thighs out of my head whilst drooling over a female guest... Property Porn indeed. As an agent, I am guilty of doing it where I live and where I work.... ;->
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Posted Date: Friday 24th June 2011
I am fascinated as to how this guy managed to con people this way. £392 for a promise? Where I work (as an agent) it is almost impossible to get property owners to agree to a notional fee - i.e.: IF we sell it then you pay us 1.5% but until then everything we do is 100% free. Average fee in my town has been steadily below 1% for 7 years. I have to say that althought "The truth" may have missed the point, charging a vendor up front to list there property and then a successful completion fee sounds like a sensible business model to me.
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Posted Date: Friday 24th June 2011
I've said it before, happy to repeat it... I am a BIG rightmove fan for several reasons: 1. The user experience is EXCELLENT (auto updates, drawn maps, you name it). 2. The agent experience is EXCELLENT (best price guide, client reports, you name it). 3. Market penetration is EXCELLENT (what percentage of all all property searches done on RM? it is well over 50%). I am an agent, and I think that Zoopla have overtaken FAP & PrimeLo in quality, but they are still in a very distant 2nd place. Considering that my monthly RM bill is half my newspaper bill (1 page per week) it is a bargain. And yes, we could debate the whole why bother in the paper, but it is still the cheapest and most effective way of getting my logo in front of VENDORS. RM will end up costing agents £1,000 in a few years - be prepared. Why? Because, in the end, it is worth it. I suppose you could almost say that a good analogy is the price of petrol. £1.40 a litre - no one could ever afford to pay that!!! But we are, aren't we? Why? Because we have to and there is no cheaper alternative.
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Posted Date: Friday 24th June 2011
The problem with the whole thing is that it is all so pointless. Consider: Bad person wants to money launder. Buys cheap fake passport (£500 gets you a REAL one with your photo in it but someone else's details). Photoshop a bank statement. That is enough to get by me no matter how diligent I am. BTW price for passport comes from a discussion I had with a member of SFO. The problem with the outstanding 34% of agents is they think like me - why bother - it is a waste of time. Personally, we registered because someone sent me a reminder, the cost wasn't massive and I just thought that the effort required to NOT pay and have to deal with the consequences would be so great I might as well.
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Posted Date: Friday 24th June 2011
The housing market in the UK is currently undergoing a period of stagflation. On purpose. Organised by the government. We need a reduction in real terms value of property in the UK. Rather than a short sharp shock, the government have gone down the road of a 5-10 year decline by keeping house prices the same and letting inflation do the hard work. It is actually quite clever, because the man in the street is already under enough pressure. In that time we will also pay down our personal debts too. The alternative is a 30% reduction over 18 months, hundreds of thousands of repossessions, a new UK banking crisis as all of those repos go on the books of the banks, mass unemployment (way worse than we have at the moment) and huge social unrest. Shades of The Specials, Ghost Town. Some people (HPCers - I pointing my finger at you) are calling for it - I think they are mad because the elephant in the room is a thousand times bigger than in 1989. Coupled together with the global nature of the banking system and the fact that UK banks are at the very heart of it all (more fool us) I have a feeling it would be the start of a new global meltdown,
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Posted Date: Wednesday 29th June 2011
Someone's removed the first post. I want to know what all the fuss is about. That'll teach me to be busy in the morning... Reminds me of an old joke back in the 90's. Q: Why don't estate agents look out of the window in the morning? A: Because they'd have nothing to do in the afternoon... Boom Boom!!!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 29th June 2011
Round 3,652 DING DING!!! And the independent feints to the left while the corporate dodges neatly to the right. Bobbing and weaving, ducking and diving. It'll never change unless homeowners stop falling for it. They WANT to be lied to. I've seen it a million times. AND posted about it on EAT a thousand times (never one to exaggerate!) I've just seen a house in my area change agent after a sale fell through. Despite the house being on the market with the 1st agent for months, reducing the price several times, it has now gone back on the market after a downvaluation made the sale fall through at a higher asking price than it was on the market for originally. Please, somebody explain to me how that could possibly make sense?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 29th June 2011
Please take into account inflation. When prices were rising at 7-9%, pre 2008, inflation was 2.something percent. So your net gain was 5% after inflation. Now we have a 2.2% drop and inflation at 4.5%. So your net gain is now a net loss of -6.7%. Or a SWING of nearly 12%. Now that is truly significant.
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Posted Date: Friday 1st July 2011
The article seems filled with a bit of vitriol and he might be coming at it from the wrong angle and arrive at the right conclusion but for the wrong reason. BUT (and please don't all shout at me at once) I think that unless we are all very careful his vision might come true faster than we all think. Don't start throwing rocks just yet! Consider: No sale - no fee means that the 1 in 5 properties that you value/ list/ sell that actually pay you a fee on completeion cover the cost of the 4 that do not. From the sucessful sellers' point of view, that is a bit of a crap deal. But it is "No Sale, No Fee" I hear you cry. Do you think they care, when having sold they know they have paid a huge bill, which on an hourly rate basis is massive. The problem is with our business model, not with the world. "No sale, no fee" from our point of view is just plain crazy. From the sellers' point of view it looks sensible, until they realise that they are subsidizing all those people who overprice their house or just dip their toe in the water or who change their mind. And an online agency with a branch network charging a listing fee to cover basic costs and a success fee will come along soon and take all of our businesses away from us. And the £500 HIP proves that sellers WILL pay up front if they have to or they can see the benefit. This is what eBay, Amazon, Rightmove, etcetera have done to us because your average homeowner is now happy to use the internet to buy and sell. From my point of view, if I could make £500 per instruction and another £1000 per completion, I could run a profitable business. The volume is there in my town, even now. BUT (and you can start throwing rocks now) a couple of agents would have to go out of business!
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Posted Date: Friday 1st July 2011
If I could borrow the money, I would be all over Spain, not Ireland. But for some reason, which I just can't work out, they won't lend me a penny. Rats!
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Posted Date: Monday 4th July 2011
London figures are interesting. Bubble bursting?
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Posted Date: Monday 4th July 2011
Include it in the details but don't print anything at all. Email them. Claim it's because you are trying to lower your carbon footprint or something - great PR. Might even be true. If they want them, they can print them themselves. Sounds like a plan!
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Posted Date: Monday 4th July 2011
Anti bribery law has just come in to force. Those little brown envelopes that estate agents get donated by property developers definitely fall into that category. The SFO will probably be watching us all quite hard. Apparently even £50 as a facilitation payment qualifies! A grand in £20 notes is a 10 year sentence. And as a boss, you are liable for those little miscreants you employ. Each one you sell now you would be wise to document that the buyer could not bribe you because ... When they say Kermit you say "JUMP!"
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Posted Date: Wednesday 6th July 2011
Stop it, just stop it. Leave it alone. Put the property market down and walk away from the law. Why try and find another stupid way to muck things up (and ruin friendships if you ask me). I have sold properties for "friends who bought together" before and it has never been pretty. Imagine a divorce, just a little bit worse, and with two testosterony guys duking it out using an estate agent as a punch bag. Earnt my fee that time!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 6th July 2011
I for one welcome our new LSL overlords.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 6th July 2011
That means that the banks can now "afford" to have these assets listed on their books. Beware an interest rate rise, the first time someone misses a payment after that and they will be out on their ear, no matter how well they have been paying in the middle. There is a huge stored up repossession problem just waiting to happen and as soon as the banks are properly capitalised, they will start acting on it.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 6th July 2011
I am happy that a business is doing well in these hard times. Can I have a job?
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Posted Date: Monday 18th July 2011
So, let me get this right. Asking prices have been inexplicably rising (outside London postcodes). + The "spring bounce" never appeared. = Lots of houses left unsold. Is "equity poor" the new "negative equity". Sounds like it to me.
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Posted Date: Monday 18th July 2011
Testing the market (at the moment) usually means putting a property on the market for WAY too much money which means that a sale is never agreed and solicitors are never involved. I loved HIPs for putting a stop to that. That was fab. But not having them has nothing to do with SALES falling thru.
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Posted Date: Monday 18th July 2011
Mental, they are all bloody mental. In what world is that expectation in any way sensible. Everybody knows (surely) that the financial crisis is a million miles from being over. Definitely the triumph (and folly) of hope over adversity. Last week I valued a house bought at the peak of the market (with work necessary). They have done a bit (not lots) to it and I said that it was worth £60k more than they paid for it. I was being polite. It went on the market for an EXTRA £75k on top of that with one of my (stupid) competitors. That is a promised profit of £135k for a lick of paint and some nice light switches (no joke). I wish my esteemed competitors the very best luck in trying to sell this over priced turkey.
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Posted Date: Monday 18th July 2011
@vossy So far (touch wood) I have not lost any commission when a house has gone on the market with another agent for way more money. Actually, I have, when I called up a lost valuation to try and get them on the market with me. In the process I reminded the owner what the correct price was , so they gave their existing agent a price reduction and they sold it. There's a word for that, best not use it here.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 20th July 2011
It looks gorgeous and the location... Wow! 8 million squiddlies though? I would love to, I really would, but to justify it I would have to be earning a lot more than I do at the moment (sobs into rice crispies). And, if the global warming mob are right, give it 20 years and that pool will be fresh seawater!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 20th July 2011
And cue the HPCers
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Posted Date: Wednesday 20th July 2011
The last time I was told by my IT lot, there are over 400 property portals in the UK. That's a lot. Most of them are syndicated out of TDPG or others, for example AOL, et al. £300,000 isn't nearly enough to make a dent. Add at least another zero, probably two. And AdZuna - really? Names of websites are like rock & pop bands, you know before a note has been played that they are going to go the distance. Although it is easy to be negative about ones that end up successful. Zoopla - Who would have guessed? The Stones - you knew they were going to be good even before he cleared his throat. Rightmove - blinking obvious. Findaproperty - ditto Adzuna - nah, never. Good luck VC guys in seeing your money. PS: I got this great idea, fancy giving me some money, it involves ...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 20th July 2011
@wardy Shhh - don't give the game away. There is an agent in my town that starts EVERY property description with "XXX agents are pleased to bring this house to the market". There is another that starts EVERY description with "A chance to acquire". You would think they would get bored of writing it, or that their secretary would go crazy ape bonkers and assasinate them for making them type the same mindless drivel on every set of details. But it does me no harm at all - carry on chaps! PS: apologies to any secretaries that might be offended by my comments - we love you
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Posted Date: Friday 22nd July 2011
And guess what.... Good agents will talk about what RM are saying at point of valuation. No matter how you say it, vendor hears negative. Bad agents will say "Oh no, that's just because the other agents aren't pro-active enough! We are seeing bidding wars, etc, etc...." The owner, being swayed by someone who is positive, positive, positive will of course then decide (wrongly) which agent to go with. EVERYBODY, even in London, knows that there is something wrong. They just don't want to admit it. Human nature being what it is means that vendors will attach more faith to the words of a convincing blag artist than to someone who is clear, honest & truthful. The funny thing is that most of these vendors are also buyers, and when they call you to look for a new property they have a completely different attitude. Why can't they see this. "My house is worth its asking price, I will not accept an offer £5k below, but I am going to offer 20% off the next one, even though it is on the market for less than the last one sold in the street, and then I am going to tell everyone how offended I am that they wouldn't take my offer." I have agreed sales for 4 vendors like this so far this year. Only 1 has gone through. You might say that considering that I tied up the sales, the owners were justified in holding out. (Pat on my back) I would say it's because I am a wicked negotiator who is fab at his job. In the end though, what twists my bits is the fact that having achieved their asking price, their attitude when they offer stupidly below is so arrogant. I find myself ranting a lot on this website - sorry.
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Posted Date: Friday 22nd July 2011
@catch22 And that is the fallacy of just talking about pound notes I'm afraid. With CPI running at 5.1% and property prices dropping at 1-2% the value of your home IN REAL TERMS is dropping by up to 7.5% per annum. Plus you are paying an exhorbitant rate of interest, probably 2.5% above what you should. Blame who you like, but to keep your house it is costing you 10% of it's value every year. It is actually better at the moment to liquidate your assets and go into rented. Finally, the landlord is subsidising the tenant! This is the difference between an economist and a normal man in the street. Which one is right? Well, the economist is right of course, but we would all prefer it if she/ he wasn't.
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Posted Date: Monday 25th July 2011
I like Hometrack. I fill in the survey and I have won something - yay! On a more serious note, for my postcodes (Surrey) they have show successive months of (I love this term, are you ready?) negative growth! I LOVE that term. Problem I have is that every time I show them to a vendor to support my sensible pricing strategy, they immediately instruct another more positive estate agent. Vendors are mental. Oh well... (sobs...)
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Posted Date: Monday 25th July 2011
Interest rates are linked to risk. The riskier the loan, the higher the interest rate. As Brit1234 says it is a scam, but not perpetrated by the lenders. They have been forced into it and are behaving in a way that covers them. Avoid.
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Posted Date: Monday 25th July 2011
Empty buildings - wrong. Squatters - wrong. Broken windows - wrong. Two or three wrongs don't make a right, but taking all of the hype out of it it boils down to: Illegal occupation by squatters, owner & agent use correct method to take property back, squatters take revenge and blame everybody else. Lock 'em up and throw away the key.
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Posted Date: Monday 25th July 2011
That few? Surely it should be closer to 100%? As Vossy says right at the start... Most vendors are buyers, but the number of properties where my owner demands asking and then goes off to offer 20% below asking on the next one is ridiculous. And they feel perfectly justified in doing so. I just don't get it. Are they completely schizophrenic or something?
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Posted Date: Monday 25th July 2011
@Rob & James I am not sure that that will happen as there is about to be a huge OFT investigation into the insurance industry and solicitors for referral fees after crashes. The police appear to be implicated in selling details to the industry as well. The whole ambulance chasing business is built on these fees. If these are regulated, then I guarantee that it will apply to the whole legal profession in all circumstances. It means that an agent that refers a customer to a solicitor that pays a feen will have to admit to it. The mortgage advice side is changing too - where advisors will have to charge a fee and be completely transparent with their costs and charges. If both lots have to write to your clients saying "We will pay Floggit & Scarper the sum of £150" I am pretty sure that the referral business will wither. 18 months at most I would suggest
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Posted Date: Wednesday 27th July 2011
I have a solution, little box in the corner filled with 4pt text that is just about readable, takes up less space than the current EPC graph. Sorted that one for you ;->
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Posted Date: Friday 29th July 2011
In the end there will be a middle ground. A mix between normal high street estate agent and online agent. They will charge customers to put it on the market (Gold/ Silver/ Bronze). They will charge for added extras. They will charge a completion fee. But they will be "real" estate agents with shops & everything. It is coming.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 3rd August 2011
I will say it again. I don't work for RM, but I do really like the service. I think they are great value for money. Applicant generation is brilliant. User experience is amazing. For us agents Rightmove PLUS is really bloody useful if you use it properly. And the cost? Yes it costs, but I spend at least twice as much on the local paper.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 3rd August 2011
Now that would just be hilarious. He doesn't get banned for fraud, but he does get banned for using the "F" bomb on his own website. Never gonna happen, but if it did I fear for my right to free speech and expression. Come on guys get real. Apart from anything else, if I was a potential customer and saw that on his website, I would be on the phone to one of his competitors.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 3rd August 2011
Deep breath. He is right. Attention seeking, maybe, but it is true. People are getting used to buying EVERYTHING online. More and more people are getting used to selling things online (eBay). We (generally) trust our daily banking needs to the internet. So.... Mr & Mrs Average Vendor, who don't trust us, not really, and think we charge WAY too much will be looking for alternatives. All of a sudden there will be a really good, viable way for them to sell their property without the likes of you and me. People have been predicting the end of estate agents since the mid 90's. After 15 years, the technology and data is available to everyone. And (this is the important bit) the general population are ready for it. That is why Hamptons & Southebys are now owned by Countrywide, why Fine is owned by Haart, why Arun Estates are buying into Fine & Country and so on. The market for agents will split in 3: Online/ budget agents Local high street agents High end agents If you are still in the middle group in 5 years you will find that your business will struggle until your high street has 1 or 2 "local" agents left instead of the 8 or 9 now. Think about it, Haart are doing iSold.com through Tescos and that is growing exponentially. They will kick your ass, unless you kick theirs first.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 3rd August 2011
RR & UC & VoS UK 10 year bond yields hit an all time low yesterday, which translates to institutional investors (pension funds, etc) believing that interest rates are set to stay low for the foreseeable future. Inflation running at 5% (CPI at least). Property prices dropping at 1-2% per annum. Real terms annual reduction of about 6-7%. This translates to a 30%-40% reduction in the REAL TERMS value of property over the next 5 years, but the £ value goes down by 5-10%. Everyone can "cope" with a small amount of equity disappearing, after all we are all saving as hard as we can at the moment. But we couldn't cope with the negative equity of prices dropping today by 30% as they did in the early 90's.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 3rd August 2011
So Countrywide buy Hamptons. Start closing down Mann & Co.s and other cheaply branded offices in favour of GPees or equivalents. Then expands high end brand name. I refer you all to a comment I made on the story about Mr Bending.
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Posted Date: Friday 5th August 2011
EPCs are for the government, not the public. In any (normal) year approx 7% of all properties in the UK change hands. This means that in 15 years the government has an EPC for every single house in the country - barring the odd 40 year in the same family exceptions which can be statistically accounted for. This allows the government to work out how good or bad our housing stock is at CO2 emmissions. That is what they are for primarily. If at the same time 10% of buyers can be persuaded to improve their property in an energy saving manner, then fantastic! Which makes the whole fake EPC a big problem for the government, but neither here nor there for the rest of us.
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Posted Date: Friday 5th August 2011
There once was an agent in Southall Who was unable to sell houses at all "I know," said he "With poetry you'll see Miss the apostrophes and it'll end well" Ta-da!
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Posted Date: Friday 5th August 2011
@someone It does affect them, because they are not there. OK it won't cause errors in the averages produced, but it will cause errors by ommission (rather than emission - hey look at me I just made a funny!)
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Posted Date: Friday 5th August 2011
@SGHI Actually, FTB Dan is right, but for all the wrong reasons. The scheme was dreamt up by a member of our government at the time - John Prescott. Read this Wikipedia article for clarification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Prescott However, it is definitely not an eco-fascist bureaucracy, more of a communist nanny state bureaucracy. KIDDING! It is important to do. The government came up with a neat idea - lets get home owners to do it and cover the costs. And so was born the lie that lead eventually to the HIP. Don't start ranting now!
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Posted Date: Friday 5th August 2011
I love the photo of the front of his shop. The beauty salon sign just tops it off for me. Columbian marching powder would appear to be the order of the day. Snnnniiiiiffff! I have to say that whilst some of this furore is serious, most of it a bit overblown, it has made me laugh a bit. @AgencyInsider - couldn't agree more. Which is why I had better shut up now and go and do some work.
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Posted Date: Monday 15th August 2011
First let me say that I am sorry for her predicament - I don't want you all thinking I am heartless. I used to work in an office less than 300 yards from there and lived up the road when the Broadwater Farm riots happened. But I have to be missing something here. The buiding freehold is owned by an RSL or Housing Association if you prefer. She is on a part buy/ part rent scheme. It therefore is insured. No ifs, no buts. Unless the insurance company refuse to rebuild the entire building - which is not going to happen - they will cover mortgage payments and rehousing costs for the time being. This is not just a rubbish story, but simple common sense means that it shouldn't even be a story at all. Silly season I suppose
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Posted Date: Monday 15th August 2011
In Soviet Russia the bath takes you! (Internet gag - have a look)
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Posted Date: Wednesday 17th August 2011
I'm not surprised. In Haringey, a business permit costs £240pA and only allows you to park next to your office, not outside someone's house. They started in 1996 by charging £18 per car per year. 2 cars now cost £230. That is an increase of 538% in 15 years - very profitable indeeed. So an estate agent in Haringey doesn't save a huge amount of money by faking it, but they do get the right to park outside their customers' houses. Now in Surrey, but I worked there from 1992 - 2003. It is quite simple, if you make stupid rules and laws, people will try to find a loophole.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 17th August 2011
I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer given before. The market is weird, I have sold overpriced stock at above asking price and I have stuff on the market that I think looks like a bargain. No rhyme or reason to it. I have stated several times before that other agents over-value, so I lose instructions. Most don't sell - so I have saved money, the other agent has dented his reputation and the vendor either thinks they are an idiot (because the agent overvalued it), or they have done the best they could considering the market (the owner overvalued it). In the end though, the most successful agent in my town (not me - sobs) is overvaluing, managing his vendors' expectations and is selling houses. A lot come off the market but a lot are selling too. Mind you his costs must be astronomical and the stress of dealing with all those unhappy vendors must be incredible. I would say that my profit levels are probably similar to his - ie. not great. The difference is that I am worried about my next instruction and how I can best look after my clients. He must be worried about his huge stock list and how he can reduce his costs. Neither of us will be going on a long summer holiday this year.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 17th August 2011
Good luck with that one. I think it was Foxtons that went to court a couple of years ago against Hamptons (???) and got their asses whipped on the matter of what constituted a "valid introduction". 6 months and you are out. Now development land will be considered slightly differently no doubt, but that's 15 years. Then of course you have the fact that he was employed (directly or indirectly) means that while at work anything that he generates automatically belongs to his employers - that is standard across the board. If I am employed to create widgets and make a successful one, it belongs to my employer, not to me. That's why you get paid a salary - that is what you get and that is what your employer gets. Oh, and as a final note I wonder if the 7 year limit on bringing a claim would apply to this.
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Posted Date: Friday 19th August 2011
Never watched the show - I try to avoid property shows on the telly as they make me hiss and spit. Especially that Beaney woman and that one about auctions - aaaarrrrgggghhhh! But I think I might need to start watching this one. What a smile!
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Posted Date: Monday 22nd August 2011
The litigation costs alone are probably enough to crush this guy. The Human Rights Act states that the right to work is considered a basic human right and therefore Foxtons cannot stop him. The onus will be on Foxtons to prove he stole the data from them and then used it to contact the clients. Tough but not impossible to do - you only need 3 loyal customers who say "I got an email..."
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Posted Date: Monday 22nd August 2011
There are: Lies Damned lies and Statistics 53% of which are made up on the spot.
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Posted Date: Monday 22nd August 2011
Lucky buggers - can I have some please?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 24th August 2011
Doom, doom and more doom. Rational behaviour... Well... It is RATIONAL that I should want to maximise the amount of money I get from selling my home. It is RATIONAL that I should get three estate agents to value my home. It is RATIONAL that they should all try their hardest to win my business. It is RATIONAL that I should up my asking price because I expect an offer (after all, I will not be paying asking price for the next one!). Each individual decision is rational, but in the end we end up with a stalled market. I valued a flat a couple of days ago, and the owner sat there and said she knew that prices had fallen, that there were no buyers and that deposit requirements were high (that's why she is selling rather than renting it out - she needs the cash to buy the next one). Then she told me how, having bid the owner down by £10k when sh bought it back in July 2007, she wanted an offer of her asking price, which is £20k more than she paid for it. She is a very well educated 30 something who is not in fear of her job and wants to move in with her fiancee. The way she looks at it, this is RATIONAL. I refused the instruction because it would be a waste of money for me. I would say that is very RATIONAL behaviour for an estate agent. As Gag Halfront (HHGTTG) once said "It looks like we are both well adjusted in our attitudes today! That'll be 15 million Altarian Dollars..." I so wish I had done Psychology in university.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 24th August 2011
Prices are too high. No ifs, no buts. Consider the fact that over the last 100 years, the investment value of property has outstripped every other investment class by a huge margin. That is an asset bubble, but it has slowly built up to huge proportions. The reasons are quite complex and include (please don't hate me for saying it) female equality - there are now 2 proper salaries coming in to a household, rather than one or one and a bit. The problem is not equality, but with the affordability calculations that drove the lending boom. We have all borrowed WAY too much money (me included) and the solution is to STOP. Not borrow more. The world governments are trying gentle price reduction and stagnation together with high inflation to gently pop the house price bubble in the EuroZone. The US has had a MASSIVE price drop. But, against everything an HPCer will tell you, they are no better off. Unfortunately it would appear that we have 20 years of quiet stagnation ahead of us.
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Posted Date: Friday 26th August 2011
19 posts about how good / bad open days are... It must be the end of August. I have to say that you are all right. They can be a monumental waste of time. They can be very succesful. The one thing that you might have missed though is that Andrews have persuaded their vednors to reduce their prices (if only for the weekend...?) If I will take £300k on Saturday, I probably will in two weeks. They can also turn round to the owner and say "See what a £25k reduction did? Look how many viewings it generated (or not) - we should carry on until sold" Also, if all the competiton has spent the summer going "Well it is quiet, but it is the summer you know" they will lose instructions to the local agent with a "NEW" idea. Seems like a plan to me. Also, it's an awful lot better than I came up with. It won't work, but good luck anyway.
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Posted Date: Friday 26th August 2011
So, with a 30% deposit and 4 times joint salary which appears to be par for the course the family needs to be bringing in over £250k per year or £21k per month. That is nearly footballer money.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 31st August 2011
I was going to start a long rant about house prices, but then realised I just couldn't be bothered.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th September 2011
'scuse the french... But did I just here that Bastard Thieves are now a bunch of C**ters?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 7th September 2011
Any franchisee has exactly the same risk. There will be, somewhere in the small print, an Eff-You clause which allows the franchisor to sell out if they want to. Sounds to me that although it is going to be a bit stressful, this will probably end up well in the end. I have a BE franchise in my town - can't wait to see the new logo...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 7th September 2011
Lies, damned lies and statistics... But EVERYBODY knows that Fitch is right. Supply and demand arguement is currently invalid as there are external influences affecting it. London has an international property investment bubble because the exchange rate is SOOO favourable. At the moment, even if property prices fall hard, most international buyers would still be in profit. London is also skewing the national average figures as most property transactions in the UK are happening there. In my area completions appear to be running at about 20-25% of normal. The statistics show an increase in the price of detached properties of 12% over the last 6 months. That's because only a few houses have sold and they are bigger than the ones sold in the previous 6 months. It is comparing Apples and Oranges. When you factor in "SENSIBLE LENDING" then prices are indeed 25% over the top. And sensible lending is what we need.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 7th September 2011
WOW. 6.48% With an LTV of 75%. WOW! Let me just say that again... WOW... What a rip off. If you have a real 25% deposit you can get an interest rate below 2%. WOW!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 7th September 2011
'Och aye the noo. No surprise there then.
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Posted Date: Monday 19th September 2011
When I first heard the term "gazumping" I was just a strip of a lad and thought it was a funny word. Then I became an agent and whilst acting on my owners' behalf found out what a pain in the arse it could be: Buyer 2 "I'll offer you £2,000 more" Owner "I'll take it" Buyer 1 "You Bastard!" and so on in a big circle until finally someone throws their toys out of the pram. Then you get to exchange and the buyer says "Now about the price..." Then the market got bad and you "Gazundering" was invented. An equally stupid word, and a similarly crap way for people to behave. Buyer "I want to buy your house" Owner "I want more than it's worth" Buyer "Hmmmm! Ok, but subject to survey!" Then you get to exchange and the buyer says "Now about the price..." But GAZANGING? Apart from the word being utterly ridiculous, I mean seriously... that is really taking it to the next level. But not being able to find a suitable next property is surely just one of those things. Horrid for everyone involved, but essentially unavoidable in these troubled times. Perhaps agents worried about it should charge a listing fee, or talk about "Plan B's" to their clients...
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Posted Date: Monday 19th September 2011
A snapshot way to look at the figures. Take a photo of a ball bouncing at the bottom of its bounce and guess what? It looks like it is sitting still on the ground. The same principle applies to these stats. Required deposits are much higher than normal due to the current economic climate - this will settle down in due course. Property prices are relatively too high because of irresponsible lending - this will also settle down in due course (price reductions or inflation - take your pick). In 5 years time it will all be back to normal. Lies Damned Lies And Statistics
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Posted Date: Monday 19th September 2011
cc - you sound like an agent's worst nightmare. There is a good reason that you did not get a call back and I would suggest that it has something to do with the fact that they know exactly how to sell... The first thing that you do when you meet a buyer who always wants a price below asking, regardless of how good value the price is, is to rip up their details and pop them in the bin. I would further suggest that you actually met a very good agent who worked out quite quickly what type of buyer you are. Go, go Gadget Agent! Round of applause!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 21st September 2011
The NAEA (from personal experience) is bloody useless. I got a reprimand withouth them even talking to me for choosing the buyer who offered the most money. I was fair to everyone and looked after the vendor - which I believe is my job. Not once did they phone me. I quit. I am trying to join the RICS but that is proving to be harder than I expected. Way harder than the NAEA. Of course, so it should be as it is a much more professional organisation. And that in the end is my point. If we are going to go for a professional registration/ licensing scheme I would very much prefer it to be with a hard to get in to top flight group like the RICS than the NAEA. The NAEA brand is strong but it has obviously been horrendously mismanaged in the last decade or so.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 21st September 2011
The thought "Own Goal" strikes me. News of The World... Telephone Hacking.... That said, The Sun is read by a LOT of people, even if they spend most of their time reading the latest footballer/ wag story or staring at the contents of Page 3. It'll be The Zoopla News In Briefs before you know it...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 21st September 2011
What Tony says has a lot of merit. People worry about the sustainabilty at point of purchase and then never give it a thought after. The point about the boiler is particularly important. How many of you have a simple thermostat in your hallway? Most of you I'd guess. The simplest way of saving money on gas bills without paying out for a supposedly efficient new boiler is to get a fully programmable stat that will take a temperature target for 6 different points of the day and run the boiler to meet those temperatures, rather than off for hours, then at full power to catch up, then back off again. The stat will cost you £100 and pay for itself in 3-4 months during the winter. And your house is always just right, rather than too cold, too hot, too cold, too hot and then finally just right. My friend, a gas man, says that people always go for the lowest quote and trying to explain that to them up front means he will nearly always looses the job. It's the same as telling a vendor that you can save them money in the long run by paying a higher fee - they just don't believe you...
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Posted Date: Monday 26th September 2011
Just wait until the Olympics are over. Bong! Bong! Bong! And the News At 10. Bong! We got (fill in your guess) gold medals, blah silver, etc. Bong! House prices in Central London collapse overnight to match the rest of the country. Such & such, head boy of the NAEA said "It was a bubble waiting to burst!" Bong!
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Posted Date: Monday 26th September 2011
Hi Brian Sorry, I was trying to be a bit sarcastic and ironic at the same time - looks like I failed. I am one of those BTL landlord estate agents that everyone thinks is holding valuations high to protect my investment. However, I have owned the portfolio since well before this current bubble started and would dearly love to buy some more, but there is no value in it. Inflation nearly 5% Rental yields only 5% Net return on investment = 0% With the worry that the value of my new investment could drop off a cliff. The cheapest property "Purchase" that I have is a little one bedroom flat in Stoke Newington that was left over from a pub conversion I did in the mid 90's. I couldn't sell it then because the market wasn't good enough. I only wanted £40k for it. It was the profit margin from the deal and "cost" me £9,000 when I bought it off myself. It has to be worth £250k now and I get £1k per month in rent. I was cursing my bad luck at the time, but think how lucky I am now. The interesting thing is the rental yield. I first rented it out for £450pcm or a 13.5% yield. Now it is worth(???) £250k and gets £950pcm or 4.56%. Admittedly you have the relative change in base rates over the time (ignoring current 0.5% which is an anomoly) but even so... The ROI on property in London is very, very poor. And consider, however genteel Hackney is supposed to be getting, it is still Hackney. Either property prices have to come down or rents have to go up. Or a bit of both. But the nature of a bubble is that it keeps going until it goes POP!
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Posted Date: Monday 26th September 2011
I never saw the original AHIPP Hitler Moment, but did a quick search and found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aSxGUneA1Y That could be it.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 28th September 2011
There is a huge disconnect between what agents are and what the general public think/ want us to be. We are NOT considered to be professionals. None of us. The general public view us as a (un?)necessary evil. That is why some of the non-agency comments her can be so vitriolic. Sometimes I feel like Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men". Me: You want answers? Owner: I want the truth! Me: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be sold by men with mobile phones. Who's gonna do it? You? Your solicitor? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Rightmove and you curse Findaproperty. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that the NAEAs death, while tragic, probably saved sales. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves sales...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me selling property. You need me selling property. We use words like valuation, contract, sole agency... we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up phone and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to! Owner: Did you order the exchange? Me: (quietly) I did the job you sent me to do. Owner: Did you order the exchange? Me: You're goddamn right I did!!
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Posted Date: Monday 3rd October 2011
Is there any way we can get unhelpful Troll remarks removed? I am getting very bored of reading comments from members of the general public who are all desperate to lay the blame on estate agents. The British way of selling property is one of the oldest property markets in the world. It works, but like all things isn't perfect. Property prices are driven by the market, not by people "wishing" for it. At this moment, because of low interest rates, vendors do not HAVE to sell at a loss, unlike the early 90's. There is NO downward pressure on prices. Therefore prices are relatively static. I completely understand why you want prices to come down, but in a great part of the UK they won't. It's not going to happen. So please, PLEASE, stop going on about it. You are perfectly entitled to your beliefs but constantly haranguing us poor estate agents who are suffering because of the lack of volume. If an owner does not want to take "the market price" and do not have to sell then that is entirely their choice. If I want to risk my money marketing a property that might not sell, then that's up to me. I have sold over 60% of all the properties I have taken on so far this year - the same percentage as in 2007. I have only had 1 (yes ONE) downvaluation all year. The only problem I have is a lack of instructions.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 5th October 2011
99 times out of 100 it is a d*ckhead vendor (who is often a buyer as well). I was recently involved in a chain of 6 properties which started with a flat in a posh bit of London for £450k, had a mid-sized house worth £700k, me at £950k, a house at £1.1m and then back down in two steps to £500k. Initially all of the owners were ultra flexible. As we got to exchange the owner of the little flat said "This day and NO other, or I withdraw". I organised holiday cancellations, changed removal van arrivals (on a £950k house let me tell you that's not just one man & his van), etcetera, etcetera. Then, the day before exchange, the same person, in a two bedroom flat turn round and wanted it two days later. "If I don't get my date, the deal is off." There are words to describe people like this. The stress levels were off the chart. The worst thing is that they got their way, which just reinforces such horrendous behaviour. I just wish that someone had told them to just Eff Off. But then I got paid, so I suppose I mustn't grumble.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 5th October 2011
Really? ARLA promotes itself and its fully paid up members... You are surprised? Surely, isn't that what the subscription fees are for? "We are ARLA - better than the rest." If I were a member (I'm not) I would be REALLY ticked off if they spent all of my money saying "ARLA members are no better than anyone else really". Deep breath and move on people.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 5th October 2011
My name is Bond. Basildon Bond. Got to love it. Spooks is a great show and Bushells have managed to get themselves on TV without being interviewed as grubby estate agents. Can I be in the next episode? I could be the out of work drunken bum sitting on a street corner...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 5th October 2011
Oh god, please no. Been here before. Remember the fall out. How many of you repossessed a 14th floor flat in an East London tower block and watched it sold at auction for the small change in somebody's wallet? I did three in 1992. Stop this madness NOW before 2014 is the same.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 5th October 2011
We use PPL who have been doing it for ages too. Move along, nothing to see here.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 5th October 2011
I got turned down.
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Posted Date: Friday 7th October 2011
I haven't worked for Spicy Faart, but have a couple of friends that do or have. I know, shocking! An agent with friends...? Whatever next? But one gets on really well there, the other absolutely hated it. All the things that they are accused of appear to be commonplace as far as they tell me. I don't like them much because they have nicked half of my branch name by calling themselves "Fine" but no doubt the court will sort that out for me in February. All of a sudden Countrywide don't look so bad!
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Posted Date: Friday 7th October 2011
I have to say that I keep an eye out for other agents advertising events/ attempts - just to see what works and give it a go myself. Far cheaper than paying for an advertising agency! I have to say that after reading about it on EAT I didn't notice another thing. Gascoigne Pees have been doing it too I think. Having worked for Sequence years ago and trying the same thing there, I remember one thing more than any other. You don't end up doing any more sales in the course of a year - it rushes a whole load of agreed sales, but it doesn't work out to extra banking. Unless you can blast the competition away, which of course you never do, just tickle their bits for a while
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Posted Date: Friday 7th October 2011
Resistance is futile. RM is a bit like The Borg - I actually watched an episode the other day Star Trek TNG - go Jean-Luc. It is inevitable that someone will come up with an eBay for properties. RM would be mad to let it be someone else. Think Sony Walkman and Apple iPod. Sony had a massive lead in personal entertainment and because they rested on their laurels an upstart nicked their whole market. If RM are clever, they have already designed the system and are just waiting for a launch date.
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Posted Date: Monday 10th October 2011
The arrangement fee is a very good way of front loading the interest payments when you are churning. A 2 year fixed rate mortgage is a way of churning business because the suckers that buy into it, have to do it again in 2 years time. Woo hoo - MORE FEES! A 2 year fixed rate deal is not fixed at all. If you look at market trends over the last 50 years it is obvious that there is no protection from 2 years fixed. If rates rise aggressively enough to make a fixed rate worth having above and beyond a variable rate then that trend ALWAYS continues for longer than 2 years. I suppose it protects you a little bit, but not enough to justify these huge fees. We are all being robbed blind by nasty bankers again.
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Posted Date: Monday 10th October 2011
Made me snigger this one did. I think I understand the term "schadenfreude" now. Why any agent could get the price this wrong is beyond me. £1250 per square foot is a MASSIVE price, but if local prices were going up then he might have seen this price by now. But prices started to come down. I have sold a flat quite recently that is about the same size as this (different area though). It got £550k. A smaller house in the same development got £675k. Context is all important.
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Posted Date: Monday 10th October 2011
The cost of moving is NOT the price of buying. Or did I read it wrong. This isn't an article about house prices, but about the cost of selling and buying. There is absolutely nothing wrong with stamp duty. It affects people who have the money to pay it. Complaining about stamp duty is like owning a Rolls Royce and complaining about petrol prices. The average price in the UK is £160 odd thousand if memory serves, which (if you are a first time buyer) costs you nothing in stamp duty. In fact up to £250k works on that and it is only 1% for non-FTBs. It is a very fair tax, the less you have, the less you pay. Those who can afford to pay more, do. If you are LUCKY enough to be able to afford a mortgage to buy a house for £499k then you pay less than the price of a modest family car. BIG DEAL. £15k is a lot of money, but not THAT much. Removing stamp duty will not in any way affect the housing market, because it is not the root cause of our problems. It would be like using a sticking plaster on an axe wound. And tax revenue from property sales would nosedive to zero, rather than being half of normal. Would you like a rise in VAT to cover that, or in your basic rate of income tax? That affects everyone immediately, not house buyers that feel squeezed but can afford it if they want to.
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Posted Date: Monday 10th October 2011
£26.66 per gnome. They probably cost less to buy. Vacant possession is exactly that though. And as a new house owner, why should he have to pay for them to be removed. That said of course, what a complete ass. I have dealt with people like this over 20 years of being an agent. My particular favorite was a vendor that demanded money for his 10 year old ratty carpets. The buyer said no thanks. The owner then said he'd leave them. The buyer said no thanks. On the day of completion the carpets were, of course, still there. The buyer refused to complete until they were gone. It cost the owner over £1500. That'll learn him to be greedy.
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Posted Date: Monday 10th October 2011
@PoTW How many transactions do you need at 20% VAT on the ancillaries to cover the 3-4% stamp duty. Typical south east example 1x 3 bed house @ £300,000 (figures plucked from thin air here). SDLT @ 3% = £9,000 - that's our target. Solicitor's bills (buyer & seller) = 2 grand? so VAT = £400. Removals x 2 = 3 grand so VAT = £600. Surveys x 1 = £500 so VAT = £ 100. Agent fee (1% typical) = £3000 so VAT = £600 So that is a total of £1,700 claimed by HMRC so far. Leaving a total of £7,300 left. Which requires the new owner to spend a further £36,500 on refurbishment for HMRC to get it's money. That's a lot of money for a standard 3 bed basic clean up/ decorate. Your figures only work if each and every house sold is half way to being a decrepit wreck. Every house that I have sold this year has either been in good condition or a complete wreck. The middle ground ones have all been overpriced by foolish vendors and have not sold. It's a bit like the rudeness survey on the BBC website today. Kids and old people are much nicer than everyone thinks. It's the middle aged, middle classes that are the problem. Bit like the housing market really.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 12th October 2011
Yawn! Current completed transaction levels near me appear to be between a quarter and a third of normal. One house at a low or high price can really skew the figures.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 12th October 2011
Aaah, daytime TV. I have learned more about twigs in vases than I ever thought possible. I have seen more people buy crap at auction than I care to mention. My eyes are bleeding... ;-<
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Posted Date: Friday 14th October 2011
The maths is simple and the outcome is inevitable. From the RICS an average branch has 68.9 properties on the market (a couple of days ago). That means that of your £500-£600 subscription (yes I know prices vary but I needed a figure so bear with me). RM earn £8.69 per property per month or just over £26 for a 3 month contract. Imagine if they could do the EPC directly, the conveyancing, the mortgage and the sale. They would then earn a HUGE amount more per vendor. Yes, their cost will go up, but not by that much. But they will put themselves (Countrywide) out of business I hear you say. No, it will evolve. And it is better to be in control of that evolution that have someone force it on you. Think Sony Walkman and Apple iPod. Spicerhaart & Tesco. Rightmove & Sainsburys? It will happen, make no mistake. 10 years from now there will 2-3 agents per high street and 2-3 major online players. Rightmove is the first point of contact for most buyers. Most buyers are also sellers. This is going to be VERY painful for most of us. And yes, RM will deny that they would ever let down their agents but PLCs lie, we all know that.
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Posted Date: Friday 14th October 2011
Love it. Made me smile on a nice sunny Friday morning!
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Posted Date: Friday 14th October 2011
A cracking idea doomed to failure. The psychology of the average vendor / buyer will make this fail. They won't even pay for a good (I stress the word good) agent to do a good (ditto) job for them. The practicalities of the successful sellers paying the fees for all the unsuccessful ones means that any home owner that sells is paying 4 times as much as they should. We have a completely screwed up way of charging because of the "no sale, no fee" basis of agency. Putting a house on the market costs an agent about £250. Doing viewings about the same. Advertising - ditto. If all owners paid a chunk up front that would mean we could charge successful sellers MUCH less. But they don't want it. Likewise they won't want this either.
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Posted Date: Friday 14th October 2011
Already there. Have been for months, but the figures speak for themselves. Alexa rankings (page visits) are: Rightmove - 975th Globally, 28th UK Zoopla - 3,817, 122 Findaproperty - 3,835, 139 Primelocation - 7,078, 277 Globrix - 24,451, 799 TDPG are dropping off the face of the planet. Zoopla has some amazing vendor tools. RM kicks everyone's arse. There isn't one "dodgy" website above RM (a few cr*p ones, but no dodgy ones). More people in the UK visit several specific hardcore porn & gambling sites than Zoopla. And as for FAP & PrimeLo, well...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 30th November 2011
Marketing and PR spin. It had no effect at all on my local market, and will have no affect when it goes. Complete waste of time and money, as is this new bloody initiative. Will probably cost more to administrate than provide money to buyers.
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Posted Date: Friday 2nd December 2011
I have been saying this for a couple of years. TOLD YOU SO! When interest rates rise, people will default on their mortgages and repossessions will increase. That said, I think it unlikely that the base rate will rise for another couple of years given that we are supposedly heading back into recession... But the banks are deliberately hiding it.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
See, it's not the agents' fault... Try and talk reality to vendors like these and they promptly instruct the next liar agent through their door. Ask a vendor "Do you want the truth?" and they will of course say yes. When you tell them the truth they promptly use the agent that works out what they want to hear... How I just love my job right now!
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
This is a nightmare. Vendor asks "Why are there no viewings?" The answer is obvious - "Your price is too high" Buyers now sit at home trawling the internet and NOT calling agents unless they see something they like at a price they feel is reasonable. Back in the day, it was me, a phone, a box of cards and a newspaper advert. Buyers HAD to register to find out what was available, which gave me the chance of SELLING to them. Now, the internet does that, so all I do is book appointments and the only time any skill is involved is in tying up an offer or maybe dealing with a sale once solicitors are involved. The wheeling and dealing that I used to really enjoy, the thing that made the job fun, is slowly disappearing. Soon, Rightmove will be able to take over because there will be no need for us sad old dinosaurs.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
Guys, guys You do not need another review site. Do you really want to up your profile with customer reviews. Here is some SEO advice. 1. Google Places - don't know what it is? Type "places" into Google and have a look. Register your business, take ownership and fill in the details - apart from anything else when people use Android Sat Nav on their smartphones it will help. 2. Get Testimonials from clients. 3. Create page on website with the words "testimonial from Mrs Smith, SuchAndSuch Road, AnyTown". The search engines love that and look for it on purpose. 4. Get clients to put testimonials on review section of Google Places. 5. Ditto Facebook 6. Ditto Twitter Downsides - people can say some very nasty things for very little reason. Be prepared to deal with it promptly and make sure that you can turn every negative into a positive. This takes a lot of work and is almost worth hiring a specific member of staff... Yes, I know the cost is difficult to justify at the moment. Maybe outsource. These guys do it for us at the moment: www.xmkt.co.uk.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
@Emma The internet is just an updated newspaper advert. BUT... The race for agents to provide better advertising than their competitors means that we put more & more info on it which allows the customer to decide for themselves whether or not to call/ email for a viewing. The problem with this is that if you sit at home and never call me, how can I tell you that because it is Wednesday today, the owner of that flat there will take a huge offer, but won't reduce their asking price. The NUMBER of opportunities for me to use the skills that I have built up over 20 years is reducing rapidly. It is quite sad, because the chances of me being able to actually do a good SALES job for my clients is approaching zero. The rest I can still do well and of course making sure the presentation is 100% is now vital. But it is a shame that all estate agency will quietly reduce down to a telephone answering service/ reception service.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
PeeBee, FBA & Trevor The "client" is the one who pays the bill, usually the vendor. Your duty is to the client. BUT, if the client is foolish with their expectations then an agent can reserve the right to refuse those instructions. The problem is that those targets keep forcing us to do things we shouldn't. An old boss of mine was very clever, the only target he set was banking. We knew the average sale value and fall through rate, but in the end the thing that mattered was CASH. No KPIs for telephone calls, mortgage leads, viewings etc. Kept it simple and achieved results. It also meant that I didn't waste hours per week collating figures (which I did at Sequence).
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
Both Paul and Tim are right, but there is a problem. It is almost impossible to differentiate your services from other agents. RM & FAP make us all look the same. We all do floorplans/ photos/ tours etc. We all do descriptions & room sizes. As one client recently commented at valuation "You're all the same aren't you?" And that's also a huge problem because owners are now using RM & FAP to work out which agent to call for a valuation. What else can we spend money on? The newspaper, Facebook & Twitter campaigns. All while fees are dropping through the floor.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
I think reviews are very important because the differential between agents is almost impossible to discern at valuation - all us agents offer the same things. If I want to buy a new TV, I go and look for reviews of that TV. If I am on Amazon, buying a new hard disk drive for my tired old PC, I will ALWAYS look at the reviews. I think that estate agents would gain hugely from reviews, but the damage that one bad review could do is enormous. Consider iSold.com and Tesco's - a very brave union if you ask me. if iSold irritate one of Tesco's customers then that customer will go to Sainsburys (or ALDI or LIDL or whatever) and go round bad-mouthing them to all and sundry. One sale worth £100 to Tescos is not worth losing years and years of weekly shops. So reviews listed publicly are definitely a double edged sword, but remember if you can convert that complaint into a satisfied customer you will often get an evangelical supporter. It depends on how you set it up and whether or not you pay the whole thing lip service (it will come back and bite you on the arse) or really commit to it (where it will pay dividends).
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
I did miss my main point though in my last post. Why pay extra for a website that no-one will visit. Google - free. Facebook - free. Twitter - free. And loads of people have already bought in to using them. This is a case of someone trying to re-invent the wheel and charge us poor agents for the pleasure.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
PeeBee - absolutely agree about income vs expenditure, but my point about targets stands quite well in an organisation that is "in touch" with itself. Forgive the arm waving terminology, but using targets to replace quality leadership is a route to disaster. If a member of staff needs training, then a good manager will know that because (s)he is taking notice of their daily behaviours, not looking at KPIs. I have had several bosses that hide behind KPIs rather than actually just get to know their staff. A poor manager can become an average manager using KPIs, but will never come close to a real, proper manager. I think that most corporate companies and a lot of independent agencies fall into this trap. The best thing about my old boss was that everyone wanted to work there and wanted to do their best. Not because of KPIs or because they were told to, but because he was an amazing boss. Everyone gave 100% all of the time. (Sounds a bit like a bromance...)
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
Times Up...! You have that wrong. The buyer is important, they always have been and any agent that doesn't realise that will quickly go out of business. The thing to remember is that one person pays the bill (owner) and one doesn't (buyer). Yes the owner "gets the money" from the buyer, but the buyer "gets the property" in return so your point is utterly specious. Estate agency is the oldest recognised business in the UK (prostitution doesn't count because they don't pay tax). The basic concepts of it are very well established.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
Darren - I agree, but the main problem I have with it is either they spend a fortune getting the public to know who they are or they take years at it instead. They will not be able to spend the money and I don't have years. I just think better routes to achieve the same thing are available. My other one at the moment is web designers trying to get me to have a website that I can change with news articles and stuff myself.Who is ever going to look at my website for specific content just from me that week. If you are going to do it, use Facebook or Twitter and then embed those into your site. Cheaper, achieves the same result and your customers are already using it for other things. It's like having your own app! A buyer is looking in my area - will they download the Rightmove app, or one from every single agent? Yet every agent in my area either has one or is considering it at huge cost - mental!
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
Oh Hawkeye, if only The average fee in my town is probably below 1%. I lost an instruction the other day to 0.5% inc VAT on a £250k flat. The problem is that that works out as £1,000 clear on completion - but it was a definite seller. The agent I lost it to is set up to be a volume agent and have over 100 properties on their books. 1 extra instruction for them is no real problem, but the fee is important. But to me it would not have been worth it. It is cheaper for me to just let them have it. Economies of scale it is called. I remember, back in the day, that if you had to ask what my fee was, you couldn't afford me and I just got up and walked out (sort of joking - but only ish). The problem is that I think that an average fee of 1%+VAT at current average values with a NORMAL volume level is probably right, but we have a few issues: 1. Agents going lower than 1% 2. Properties are overpriced by 20-30% 3. Volumes appear to be a third to half normal levels. I am having the same problem in lettings too, having lost lettings instructions to agents who are buying market share at 5% commission rates. Which gives a total of £600+VAT for a whole year's letting which is insane business.
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Posted Date: Monday 5th December 2011
No it doesn't PeeBee, no it doesn't. I am sure that there are other bosses out there that are worth working for, but I have met very few over time. I would love to be that type of boss myself, but have a nasty feeling that I probably don't measure up. The problem is that I have never yet felt the urge to put any of my own money on the line to run my own business. The rewards are there for sure, but so are the pitfalls (like now for instance). Maybe I will wait till this is all over and think about being that inspirational business leader I have always wanted to be.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 7th December 2011
The concept is valid. If there was no Data Protection Act then any random nasty company could walk off with your information and do as they please. £35 would just about cover the admin cost of running it. And you have to remember that us estate agents (especially those big nasty corporates) hold a HUGE amount of very personal data. Pain in the arse? Definitely. Additional cost I don't want? Certainly. Worth it in the end? Probably.
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Posted Date: Friday 9th December 2011
So, you are on the internet already and can see a QR code. Whatcha gonna do next? Whip out your iPhone and snap the QR code to look at it on a much smaller screen? Absolutely effing mental... As far as I can see they are useless, except perhaps on boards but Mr G from Kremer (who I know quite well) and his serious plug below is utterly shameless. Walking past a board and wanting to know more about that property is probably very handy, but the individual cost of personalising each board is massive. And I certainly wouldn't want my board man doing it in case he got the wrong QR code on the wrong flat - Property Mis-Description here we go...
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Posted Date: Friday 9th December 2011
Yay, I'm registered!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th December 2011
Pride comes before the fall... Olympics over, the shine will fade from the Greater London market and prices will correct sharply. Central London will do well whilst the exchange rates are as favorable as they are and the UK remains as a general safe haven for foreign investors. I am an agent within the M25 by the way before the flame wars begin...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th December 2011
I am an agent outside London, so forgive my off-hand negativity but... FTB (Dan are you still there?) sitting at home (rented or with mum & dad) thinking I would LIKE to buy. Either: 1. Sees news and thinks "No thanks". 2. Sees news, thinks "What the hell - why not" and goes to see parents for help with his/her deposit who say "No thanks". 3. Sees news, thinks "What the hell" and goes to see parents for deposit who say "Why not" and then applies to bank for mortgage who say "No thanks". 4. Sees news, gets deposit, arranges mortgage, has a survey which says "No thanks" 5. Sees news, gets deposit & mortgage, survey OK, vendor of property can't find. Or 6. Actually buys a property. There is no surprise that the "FTB" is elusive. Property prices are static but values are falling. Rents appear to have peaked (25% rise in the last 2 years - the pips are squeaking where I work...) although prices might continue to rise in the Spring. If I was a first time buyer, I would wait... I am a landlord (with no mortgages - so I guess I am lucky - but I did work quite hard to do it) and would truly love prices to return to their long term historic trend value, which would be about 20% off where we are today. I would then be able to buy some more (without taking out stupid LTV mortgages) and rent them out too.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th December 2011
Like - derrr! No surprise there then. Stupid, ill conceived government led scheme results in unintended consequences... Who could ever have foreseen that?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th December 2011
The VERY best that will happen as far as poor estate agents are concerned is that it'll bumble along pretty much the same as it is now. What should happen is that prices should fall by 20%. But they won't because the government and the banks cannot afford it. So with 5% inflation and 1-2% price falls we will see 25% come of VALUES in the next 4-5 years. BUT, worse still, average salaries are falling, and so have mortgage income multiples, so it will probably take somewhere between 7 and 8 years to finally shake through the system. Happy Days... Continuous negativity is all there is, but I suppose we could all fiddle while Rome burns ;->
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Posted Date: Friday 16th December 2011
No surprise there then. Do I hear "doom, doom" from the HPCers?
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Posted Date: Friday 16th December 2011
I have done most of my Christmas Shopping online again this year. I thought I would pop down my High Street yesterday to get a few bits and pieces and ended up coming back empty handed. No massive crowds putting me off, just rubbish shops selling tat, racing for the bottom, every one of them trying to sell cheap crap for the lowest possible price. The Primark mentality...? (Which might be a bit unfair to Primark - their white work shirts have sustained me through the credit crunch...) There is nothing of any quality there, but then I suppose, for Mr & Mrs Average they would prefer to buy/ give/ receive LOTS of crap stuff rather than one or two nice things. That certainly seems to be the way my kids want it, Quantity over Quality. Such a shame. I suppose it is the same with the way the general public perceives estate agents {-(
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Posted Date: Friday 16th December 2011
Since when has it been called the Christmas Pudding effect? I tend to find that Christmas Pudding makes me feel fat, uncomfortable and windy (or is that the sprouts...?). The "Christmas Slowdown" as I have always know it seemed to start in October this year, with a couple of random, unexpected but very welcome good weeks in late November. Oh well, not to worry, works Christmas do tonight - thick head in the morning
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Posted Date: Friday 16th December 2011
I have to say I love the fanboi flamewars on EAT. If I might stoke the fire a touch... We have a most unusual set of circumstances at the moment. The laws of supply and demand are working perfectly. Prices SHOULD have fallen massively, but they haven't because very few (comparatively speaking of course) properties are being repossessed (which you would expect in a global recession). Back in the 90's prices fell by 25% in my area of North London because interest rates forced people to sell or get repossessed. Interest rates are so low (I pay 3.07% variable rate on my mortgage) that nobody is being forced to sell and banks cannot afford to repossess every one of their slightly late payers. LIBOR is 1.05%, BoE base rate is 0.5% so my mortgage company is making a 1.52% profit out of me every month - a HUGE annual compound profit. The banks want to keep all that profit to pay down their bad debts so are making it very difficult for new borrowers to get a mortgage (low multiples and high deposit requirements). Because no one is being forced to sell and very few can get a "suitable" mortgage the housing market is left with only a few properties to sell and only a few buyers to buy them. Because most vendors then become buyers as well, the effect is even stronger. What this means though is that supply and demand is nearly balanced. Prices therefore do not change (much). Unless something truly horrible happens, this will continue for several more years until the Real Terms Value of property returns to where it should be.
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Posted Date: Friday 16th December 2011
Good point Hants EA. I have been slated several times for pointing out: 1. Prices are falling 2. Prices should fall 3. Property "Values" are way off what they should be. A bit of common sense makes this obvious (to me at least) and for the world to return to normal (ie before 2003 when this property bubble began) real terms values have to fall. This will be a mix of inflation and price falls.
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
A wise man once wrote: And if there's anybody left in here Who that doesn't want to be out there I predict a riot I predict a riot I predict a riot I predict a riot Then of course The Specials with Ghost Town...
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
PoTW - you have a very good point. I don't think it will be PIP though. One day (probably sooner than most would guess) I think RM will decide that £100 per house is better than £450 per month per estate agent. They have the idea of linked sales down pat - they'll get you for the mortgage and the solicitors too. Need an EPC? What about photos and a floorplan? Posh house? How about virtual tours? Want someone to do the viewings for you? What about sales progression? All of a sudden, I think that the race to the bottom will have been won and the service will be brilliant (even though the price will be low). A bit like Tesco & Sainsbury. I would hazard a guess that 50% of all agents will go out of business. Think I am mad? Think I am wrong? Ask Sony (Walkman) what they think of Apple (iPod)... It is better to own the new business that kills your old business rather than let someone else do it and end up with nothing.
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
Big RM fan - still think they are cheap, considering what I get from them. Stop whinging about it. Far more important is that house prices are 20-30% too high. The news about enforcing "sensible" lending practices would be hilarious if it wasn't so bloody serious. As I heard on Radio 4 this morning (god I'm old - when did that happen?) "I can't believe that these things weren't being done already..."
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
Spot on Chas, inflation will sort this out in a few years. Now, the next comment might sound both off topic and a bit weird, but stick with it... It is after all the way the Germans dealt with the cost of the 1st World War. After they lost, the Allies handed them the bill in German Marks. On purpose, the Germans went through a period of hyper-inflation and the bill essentially vanished. Naughty war mongering Germans = Dodgy bankers & stupid politicians? (BTW - I have nothing against Germans as such, it is just a good example of Harsh Economic Realities). Mind you it reminds me of that old football chant.....!
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
Lucky effing buggers. Mind you, wait until after the Olympics...
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
To EVERYONE It is too late - do you honestly think that with their enormous stock value and HUGE cash reserves that Rightmove would bat an eyelid if every single agent walked out tomorrow? Seriously...? All it would do is give them the perfect opportunity to launch their new online estate agency. Rightmove are a very clever organisation and they must be planning for this. I would, and I am only a little bit clever (I just don't have any money...) Resistance is futile - it is already too late - as Mr Grumpy says The writing has been on the wall big and large for some time, its just we are too stupid to read it.
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
As an aside, although they have competitors, they have managed to get themselves into a virtual monopoly because they are so much better than their competitors. A bit like Apple and the iPod really. When you have that level of control over the market, then your customers will moan about being gouged, but let it happen anyway. It is the "Oooh shiny new things mentality - we have allowed this to be done to ourselves"
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
To the man with no name Dave is right, although I understand he has an agenda. I am an agent. I have been stating for years that prices are too high. On holiday in Spain in 2007, about to open my very own estate agency I thought "Maybe not..." then the Northern Rock went. A very lucky escape if you ask me. Prices are too high, fueled by irresponsible lending. Unsustainably high - something has to change. That is undisputed by anyone who is not an agent as far as I can tell (and me of course). Prices have remained relatively static and the government appear to be playing instead with the VALUE of money, which has the same effect in the end. But we need wage increases, which for very obvious reasons are unlikely for the next few years.
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
PoTW - they are the lyrics of a song by the Kaiser Chiefs. I was going to put in the whole song, but thought it overkill.
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Posted Date: Monday 19th December 2011
Hi Tony I was going to give you a long technical lecture on the merits of house prices measured against earnings but ended up thinking "Why bother"... Yes you could pick another number, but that would be randomly picking a number. Yes each are of the country is different so some will be 15% and others 40%. In the end though it is REAL affordability that counts. If in town A the average salary is £25k and you get a new couple wanting to buy a little house then the should be looking to pay £150-£200k. I am in Epsom, so average wages are higher, but not that much higher. A one bed flat will cost you £180-190k. Three bed houses start at £275k for a pretty ropey specimen. 30% off would be about £75k off which would bring it all in line. Just experience and common sense in the end.
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Posted Date: Friday 23rd December 2011
Online Agent, Michael & Worcestershire Agent all make good points. The "problem" is choice. A property owner used to able to choose between Agent A, B, C, D etc - all on the high street and all quite ethical (Back in the day pre 1987 of course). The Late Eighties "Greed is Good" Gordon Gecko mantra rather killed things though. Mortgage lending became de-regulated and rose hugely (compared to the controlled lending before - my aunt and uncle bought their first house with a "council" mortgage...) Not only did the number of agents proliferate, prices shot up and fees came down. Leading to a greed wins attitude for everyone. The logical conclusion of this is a race for the bottom where property owners are so queezed by the size of their overinflated mortage that they look for every cheaper options in other transactions. People do not place ANY value on the services of an average estate agent and in a huge percentage of cases this is thoroughly justified. But then of course you get what you pay for... Pay me 2% and you will get a 2% service with bells & whistles, pay me less than 1% (usual where I work) and you get a modest service based on volume of transactions and crossed fingers. The next stage down the ladder is fixed listing fees and crossed fingers where successful transactions do not subsidise failed ones because they pay too. It is inevitable (blimey - two film quotes in one post - how good's that?)
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th January 2012
Might I suggest that this game is a little bit more fun: http://www.verydodgy.com/downloads/flash/pingu.html It involves polar bears, penguins and spiked baseball bats. It is not in the slightest bit PC and almost certainly will get you fired if your boss spots you playing. Maybe if we change the penguin to Harry Hill?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th January 2012
Can't wait to see that. I understand that Fine & Country already have an interim court order for Spicerhaart to pay their costs for borrowing the name. They might get bigger, but it is pretty sure they won't be using the name "Fine". Happy Days
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th January 2012
Oh, BTW.... They have one branch that turned in some good numbers as far as I can tell. The rest haemorrhaged money (also as far as I can tell). But since they are biggybacking on existing Haart offices I suppose their "20 offices" is more like "little corners and a couple of window cards of 20 offices" The idea of catering to the upper quartile is sensible, but it takes time and a lot of money.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th January 2012
'Tis the way of the world ladies & gents. Commissions forced ever downwards on sales mean that agents looking at their bottom lines will be attracted to additional fees offered for referrals. These will become normal and expected until the current investigation by the OFT into referral fees by solicitors to insurers concludes. This is because every member of the general public is looking for a good deal, unfortunately none of them actually knows what that means when talking about estate agents. They know the cost but not the value. Therefore cheap (crap) wins every time.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th January 2012
BTW I have a surveyor friend who explained the whole panel deal to me. Bank or BSoc charges purchaser £600 for survey and take their cut. Panel charge £200 to "manage" it - i.e. send an email or two (seriously not kidding). Surveyor lucky to see £250 inc VAT, less that half of the total, and takes all of the risk, etcetera associated with it. Oh, of course he also has to pay an annual registration fee to be on the panel too and comply with their service level agreement too. I feel very sorry for both proper solicitors (not conveyancers) and surveyors at the moment
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Posted Date: Wednesday 18th January 2012
Now that either gets an "Ooops, sh*t" or a "Nicely done to get me out of the stupid gold handcuffs" depending on the end result. Give us a job???
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th January 2012
Compared to 2006 where it was 1,669,000. That's 53% of the 2006 figure, so you could say that just under half of the buying public either couldn't or wouldn't... The interesting thing about this stat is that in the South East, London is doing very well, in the North of England there are more forced sales that in the South and where I work it would appear that transaction levels are about a third of normal.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th January 2012
@toppol but the tw*t charging 0.5% down the road wins the instruction? @Pig - truly horrible colour scheme I agree, but I bet it is different from their competitors which is what you need in this day and age of homogeneous delivered by Rightmove. @Get Real - out back having fun with Bungle?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th January 2012
Sorry everyone, feeling a bit sarcastic this morning
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th January 2012
The funny thing is that whilst more cheap flats sell faster than expensive houses the require much more chasing because they have leases. The sweet spot for instructions in the South East is probably about £400,000. It's a house, probably a semi, has clean legal title and a queue of people to buy it. Easy money as far as an agent is concerned, which is why, where I work, you are lucky to achieve a fee above 0.75%.
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Posted Date: Friday 27th January 2012
@HD bit like petrol duty. We all complain about the cost at the pump, but for every £1 you pay HMRC get most of it. BP (or equivalent) have to find it, get it out of the ground, transport it, refine it, transport it again and pay for the forecourt, lighting insurance & wages. They make a profit on the 17pence the government leaves them after fuel duty and VAT. On a price of £1.42 per litre for diesel the petrol company will make about 2p profit per litre. That's why they all have expensive shops in them - that's how they actually make a profit - because you'll pay 20% more than you should for a Mars Bar. Bloody Government - let's string 'em up! ;-)
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Posted Date: Friday 27th January 2012
I can just imagine my 16 year old daughter being all over this one. I can just see all of the ROFLs, LOLs and LMFAO right now. What an absolute coup. Consider the Band Wagon thoroughly jumped on. BTW, not the first ;-D
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Posted Date: Friday 27th January 2012
Probably to pay off all of those monstrous PayDay loans being charged at Several Million Percent. STOP BORROWING MONEY You would have thought by now that the penny might have dropped. For God's sake, just stop it. I'll admit that there is little point saving though.
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Posted Date: Monday 30th January 2012
Got to say that my volume is low but I sold one property on my second day back to work and I have just agreed a sale that came from a viewing on my first day back at work. Go figure... (and I am Mr. Glass Half Empty)
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Posted Date: Friday 3rd February 2012
Yay! I'm soooo happy! :-D That's going to make ALL the difference. Wooo Hooo
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Posted Date: Friday 3rd February 2012
1 year = £600 That's the same as I pay RM in a month. No brainer to at least give it a go. BUT Imagine all the LOLs, ROFLs and LMFAOs. Someone said to me the other day when I was ranting about this that it is great for SEO. I thought "Meh, maybe" but there are other ways. It does have a huge potential for abuse and if you are not very careful you can really damage your reputation (if you generate one in the first place of course).
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Posted Date: Friday 3rd February 2012
THE VERY BEST REVIEW SITES ARE: 1. Google Maps - get your business listed on Google Places and ask you (happy) customers to leave you a review - SERIOUSLY - this is MASSIVE - if you want to get to the top of the list on a Google Search........... 2. Facebook - nuff said, but still not sure that my customers are Facebook users, mind you their kids are... 3. Twitter - ditto 4. Testimonials Page - search engines love it Great Company called XMKT - the internet by designed is helping us with ours. www.xmkt.co.uk - their great
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Posted Date: Friday 3rd February 2012
I have a site dedicated to prancing pink ponies (totally joking) and it doubled it's visitors too. Last year I actually had 2 (yes two) whole visitors
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Posted Date: Friday 3rd February 2012
Spell check for god's sake, spell check www.xmkt.co.uk they're great
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Posted Date: Monday 6th February 2012
I think the number 2 comment at 8:31 is just brilliant. Certainly made me smile. Andrews did a great marketing campaign with their open house thingy back in August/ September. This is Spicey Faart doing the same thing. Completely bogus, but they are at least trying. That said I have only ever met 2 employees of said company that I would pee on if they were on fire.
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Posted Date: Monday 6th February 2012
It's actually worse than this. Very few sales last year fell through because of downvaluations as far as I can tell (in my area at least). What I did see was loads of houses coming on at mental prices, then reductions, then sales then withdrawn. Checking the land registry, the properties never sold. I am guessing that this is because at the correct price (ie non-wish price) it sold, but then left the owners with insufficient equity to get a mortgage on the next house. And of course there weren't enough next houses to buy either. One of my competitors works on the basis of high volume and low fees and from what I could see, at least 60-70% of all of the properties his company took on the market failed to complete. That must have cost him a fortune. Even worse though, loads of people must have spent fortunes on surveys and solicitors. Ouch all round
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Posted Date: Monday 6th February 2012
I quit the NAEA after I was given an official warning without them even speaking to me about the circumstances (which were that I accepted the highest offer in a sealed bid situation and once the offer was accepted even though the loser offered more, the owner stuck to their word and went with the winner of the bid). I was sent a letter saying that my behaviour was unbecoming a professional estate agent and that if I did it again I would have my Certificate revoked. I think that I was being honorable and my owner was being honorable which is something missing in this world. Surely that is what a sealed bid situation is about... On that basis I ripped my certificate up and posted it back to them. Happy days. That said, I am VERY surprised at this worry about exams, audited accounts, CPD and other stuff. I think that these things are worth doing and make those 5 letters after your name actually mean something. When I first started I was vetted by my local chapter as to whether or not I knew my stuff and my ethical motivations. It was a quite intense interview. In this day and age, the interview process is insufficient so If you don't do any of those things the value of it all is absolutely ZERO.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th February 2012
I would suggest either: 1. 3 x Single Salary 2. 2.5 x Joint Salary 10% minimum deposit. Just call me Prudence!
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th February 2012
Dooooom! Can I suggest a new meme? We have LOL, ROFL & LMFAO. DL&S = Damned Lies & Statistics...?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th February 2012
Isn't this the same that happened to surveyors? Starts with a panel company that stands between bank and surveyor. Ends up with bank using panels exclusively and the surveyor doing the job for tuppence ha-penny. In the end the client ends up with a survey that is legally unenforceable, the panel company ends up with the best profit margin and the bank is able to say "nothing to do with us". I feel very sorry for high street solicitors because their business model is disappearing rapidly.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th February 2012
Hi Ray Hugs & Kisses ;-D Actually, I am 100% against regulation, but I was driving home the other night and the questions of US gun laws came on the radio. Bear with me on this. Americans LOVE guns and the right to bear arms is part of their constitution. BUT if guns are illegal and the law is strictly enforced (like here in dear old Blighty) then the chances of me meeting a man with a gun who wants to hurt me are seriously limited. MY GAWD says the American, I demand the right to defend myself... All of a sudden there is no need to have a gun under your pillow. Same applies with mortgages funnily enough. If EVERYONE is restricted in the same way with how much money they are allowed to borrow, then all of a sudden Liar Loans vanish, massive (fake) price surges disappear and we all move ahead smoothly. I put it a bit simply in the first post because I felt like it but imagine the following: Either: 1. A forensic investigation of your finances and a mortgage offer based on your averaged outgoings over the last 24 months (wow - the paperwork). 2. Average of your last 2 years' salary (based on the amount of tax you paid/ P60s) multiplied by a sensible figure - say 3. Both work, we could have them in tandem if you like, but one should come with a high admin cost, the other low. You could also allow some kind of wiggle factor in the multiple (say up to 3.5 times) if the customer has an exemplary credit score. Nice, simple, easy to apply, sensible, practical lending for the masses. For me option2 would be a problem as I am very tax efficient and if I wanted to apply for a mortgage on that basis I would maybe have enough for a couple of garages.... But, I could go down route 2....
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Posted Date: Wednesday 8th February 2012
BTW 3 is an arbitrary figure that I used from personal experience when I bought my first house in 1995. Any sensible figure could be placed her 2, 3, 4... As long as it is sensible for Mr & Mrs Average. And yes of course averages don't work countrywide, but it is certainly a good place to start.
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Posted Date: Monday 13th February 2012
So 54% of all property transactions at this moment are cash only? Surely not. I've been an agent for twenty years and even using the normal figure of 62% I just don't see it. I have worked everywhere from Central London to little rural and that would mean that 1 in every three purchases were pure cash. Surely not, or am I missing something. I would have said no more than 10%... (BTW remortgaging my house to buy another one is definitely NOT a cash purchase).
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th February 2012
Only have one sale myself where this is important. Agent friend of mine didn't even know anything about it in the first place... I suppose though it depends on the area you work in. Mind you average sale price round here over the last 5 years has been in the region of £325,000...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th February 2012
Bairstow Eves or Winkworth. Don't know what the franchise costs are per month for these two, but I think it is clear which brand is better.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th February 2012
I LOVE a good flame war on EAT. I am in a good mood as I have just exchanged a house that I agreed the sale on exactly 366 days ago. Yaaaaay! As one Mr. "Neo" Anderson once said "The problem is choice..." Both @Anon and @IO have good points. As far as Mr & Mrs General Public are concerned, all estate agents ARE the same. Why? Because Rightmove & FAP makes us all look the same. Vendors all know that we take photos, write up a crap description, pop it on the interweb & cross our fingers. The difference is the staff who answer the phones when someone calls in. But how do I prove this to a vendor when I am doing a valuation. Worse still, they all agree with you but then still instruct the cheapest agent with the highest price. One local agent here even has a member of staff whose main job is to keep vendors happy with a weekly call which involves getting their price down. It works because he has nearly 200 properties on the market at any one time, many overpriced on purpose to snag the instruction. He is also the agent that will take it on at any fee regardless. That said he is also the number 1 agent in the town by miles and miles - in 2006/ 2007 he put well over £1million in the bank. It works ladies and gents, it WORKS. Mind you I think it is a horrid way to do business.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 15th February 2012
Spicerhaart gets award for paying a whole load of gullible fools next to nothing for training in an industry where there is no recognised licensing. Seems legit to me!
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Posted Date: Friday 17th February 2012
When is a sale not a sale? When it's some new fangled auction thingy? Is this helping anyone? I mean really helping them, as opposed to coating a fiddle in PR gloss.
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Posted Date: Friday 17th February 2012
I agree with eddie - what house buying member of the general public is a serious facebook user? Or possible the opposite question is more important - what facebook user is a serious buyer? And FTB has a major point - facebook requires that you have friends. Estate Agents do not have friends. (makes a sound like Zoidberg) wup wup wup wup wup
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Posted Date: Friday 17th February 2012
I have always thought that complaining about stamp duty is the equivalent of owning a Rolls Royce and complaining about the cost of petrol... Apart from anything else, I do not know of one person who has decided to buy or not based on this temporary stamp duty holiday. I don't think it will make the slightest bit of difference considering that deposit requirements and mortgage application fees are as high as they are.
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Posted Date: Friday 17th February 2012
Well, I have to say that they seem to be getting about a bit. Their site is linked to by 307,000 other websites. Rightmove is mentioned on other websites over 85 million times. That's a mountain to climb. Good luck
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Posted Date: Wednesday 22nd February 2012
Websites are protected from issues of libel as long as the comments made do not belong to them AND they do not edit them in any way. As soon as they edit or delete comments, they are potentially responsible for all comments made on the site and liable for libel charges. Consider EAT here and the fact that some comments do get removed, but only in extreme circumstances. SO... If a bad/ fake review is put up on AllAgents, it is unlikely to get removed without a court order, because their business model cannot afford to take the risk. Big Smile
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Posted Date: Wednesday 7th March 2012
Ooooh, HMRC spend £6.9million chasing £7million. I'm impressed
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th March 2012
In my town, every sales agent is now a lettings agent. In 2007 there were 3 agents doing lettings properly - now there are closer to 13... You cannot become a "good" lettings agent who has the depth of experience to deal with the trickier side of lettings in such a short time, especially when you are trying to prop up a loss making sales operation. Hiring someone who can put ARLA after their name or joining TPO, NALS or SAFEagent doesn't suddenly make you good. But you pays your fees and cross your fingers. Then everyone is competing and slashing fees because some business is better than no business. Then, all of a sudden, the landlords are rubbing their hands saying "Woo Hoo, we saved money" and then losing money or unprotected because of the ineptitude of the agent. Or the tenant who says "Woo Hoo, no referencing fees, we saved money" and then getting really bad service which leaves them out of pocket or unprotected. I did a valuation the other day and lost it to another agent for 4% let only on the first 6 months only with no second term fees. My average let only fee before 2009 was at least double that for the initial length of the tenancy agreement and we usually signed for at least a year. I believe the wolves are eating the canines out there.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th March 2012
Classic Left Hand / Right Hand joined up thinking here. DCLG: "OK guys, EPCs - everyone needs one, jobs for the boys!" Landmark: Inspectors can't afford to pay us to host them because they are getting screwed over" DCLG: "Well you can't charge for them because of Freedom Of Information" Landmark: "Agents get loads of money and need to comply with Data Protection - lets charge them 50p for a two inch square box of nothing!" DCLG: "Now that's thinking" Reminds me of HHGTTG, Deep Thought, Vroomfondel and Majicthise discussing the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything, to which the answer is 42. Q: Why don't we think of things like that? A: Our minds must be too highly trained...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th March 2012
I met some poor guy this morning who had bought in 2008 just before the market tanked. He bought with a shared ownership scheme and is now in negative equity on a £250,000 flat when he has a mortgage of just £100k. Shared ownership advisor told him when he bought it that the market could never ever go down! Is that Satan I hear, skating to work? Worse still, his mortgage and shared ownership rent is nearly 20% more than he would be paying to rent an identical flat in the same building because although his mortgage rate is cheap as chips, the Housing Association has put up his rent by over £300 per month, which is considerably more than private rental prices have gone up in the meantime. Poor guy and he is a keyworker, one of those that this type of scheme was set up to help.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 14th March 2012
Yay, how COOOOOL is this. Rightmove give me something for free that helps promote them and makes yet another owner say: "YOU ESTATE AGENTS ARE ALL THE SAME AREN'T YOU!" AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH. What makes one estate agent better than another? The people, surely. What's the one thing a vendor never knows until after they've signed on the dotted line? What your staff are like. I now purposely take Tesco's bags into Sainsburys to carry out my shopping. Not because I am an eco-warrior, but because I am a contrary b*stard who thinks it is funny! Get iPad, buy KeyNote for £8 and make your own. I admit I am computer literate, but it took me just 30 minutes to make a digital version of my normal brochures.
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Posted Date: Friday 16th March 2012
Actually, the success rate on these things is quite low, but it is worth it for the scammers. If they get 1 positive response out of 1000 emails - which is about as good as we get from sending leaflets through doors (...... wow, thinking about it estate agents do just the same thing ......) then they get an opportunity to earn several thousand pounds. A computer sending out automated emails on a "calls included" telephone bill costs less than £100 to set up (that's a 2nd hand OLD computer - but it's good enough for this). Fantastic return on investment. Certainly a better yield than Buy To Let...
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Posted Date: Friday 16th March 2012
That'll work. Top boy from a large company that is engaged in a business that most people think is a gnats wing better than being a banker asks for a tax break to save them. Hmmm.... That'll happen ;-)
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Posted Date: Friday 16th March 2012
I know that there are lies, damned lies and statistics, but has ANYONE actually looked at the HPI index for their region on the Land Registry website? Surrey (where I am) peaked in 2008, dropped massively and recovered to about 4% below peak value. It bumbles along: up a bit, down a bit, up a bit, down a bit. The banks are STILL screwed, there's no change there, and there are huge numbers of people in arrears and/ or negative equity. When the Olympics have been and gone, the shine on the London market is likely to vanish (certainly all the survey reports I have seen in that area have mentioned the "Olympic Effect"). Europe is still screwed too. It goes to show that 60-65% of the UK population are deluded. Keep smiling ;-)
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Posted Date: Friday 16th March 2012
I think that NFoPP have a big problem, really big. The public don't really care about them and TPO is a better place to complain. Agents have found that they have changed from being a support tool for members to a money pit with no benefits AND a place for the public to complain. As an agent, what I would want from my professional body is a support mechanism that gives me advice and upholds standards - not something that issues draconian (and pointless?) bylaws and charges huge sums to keep up with them. PBK may have been the head of the organisation, but I am sure that there are several whole committees that will need to be changed if anything positive is going to happen there.
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Posted Date: Thursday 22nd March 2012
I think this coupled with the end of the Olympics might dull the London property market shine. But it will ripple out to affect the rest of the country. In the North, prices will come down even more. In the South, prices will start to come down. I know that there are a whole load of HPCers that read EAT, but for all your bleating about it being a good thing, I would say we are now too far down the road to suddenly rip the plaster off (mixed metaphors - sorry). If we had gone for immediate devaluation of property that would have been fine, but having struggled for 5 years using high inflation to devalue property, rather than real price falls, this could end up being disastrous. Keep Calm & Carry On - I love that saying.
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Posted Date: Friday 23rd March 2012
I have had 3 cases with HSBC so far this year and each one has had me, the buyers and the owners all pulling our hair out. The only upside in each case was that there was no chain involved. Absolute nightmare EVERY time.
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Posted Date: Friday 23rd March 2012
Let me be the first to wish @agents are crooks! the very best. Most agents are not crooks, some are good, some indifferent and some awful, but there are very few crooks. I have a feeling that you may also have added a few extra zeros into your figures there too.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 28th March 2012
I agree with Ray, but like a lot of "obvious" things the immediate shiny gloss covering hides a huge amount of fine print that most people will happily ignore on purpose. The general public want to be told nice happy things, not reality. Agent overpricing being a regular topic on this website proves this neatly. Free electricity = £50-£100 per month or £600 - £1200 per year. That equates to a max of £30k over 25 years. I wonder what the penalty clauses are to get the panels removed...
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Posted Date: Wednesday 28th March 2012
@Psalm 4 - somehow I doubt that. Mind you, I do hope that Spicy Faart get a thorough kicking in court.
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Posted Date: Friday 30th March 2012
Actually quite a good idea, but hardly new. New for an estate agent, probably, but hardly groundbreaking. But it is something that they can handle with their out of hours call centre. It's a good idea and the next step in closing down high street agency. Which is also a plan of theirs with their central hub offices which are either successful or not depending on who you talk to.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 11th April 2012
I have a feeling this AllAgents thing will probably catch on. Why? Because RM & FAP make us all seem the same. And because their is a (misplaced?) desire for transparency which in the end will mean that the winners are better are covering up bad press. The ONLY type of news is BAD news, people don't want to read about good quality, they just want to avoid bad quality. So if you are a good agent, pricing honestly with sensible fees you will nearly always lose the instruction to the overpricing, undercharging liar agent down the road. Unless they have bad reviews that the public can see, why would you go anywhere else?
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Posted Date: Monday 16th April 2012
@R and @RR what on earth are you talking about? Until quite recently MORTGAGE VALUERS used to call up estate agents and ask for comparables to support (or not) the transaction value. Then you got AVMs (Automated Valuation Models) like Rightmove, Zoopla & Hometrack - so the calls from surveyors dried up. ALL (and I do mean ALL) estate agents go round to a house or flat with the intention of earning a commission and will do everything in their power to get it. Agent 1 - "We sold the house over the road so yours is worth X" Agent 2 - "Agent 1 doesn't know what he's talking about - I'll get you more" Agent 3 - "Those other 2 didn't sell this house round the corner - I did, so I know I'll get you even more." The maths is very simple: ask yourself how long it would take to save up £10,000. Then think why it makes SENSE to overprice your home (at least to start with) and why estate agents just can't help it. EVERY single time I have been honest with an owner about overpricing it has gone to a different agent. Then when it doesn't sell, the owner is just too embarrassed to call you back in. Bloody brilliant. I would suggest we are in for another 5 years of this. Oh, BTW, if you read through all of my old posts you will see that I have been predicting a drop in VALUE from when I joined up. Nothing quite like being spot on - even my figures pan out
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Posted Date: Monday 16th April 2012
@Ray - I wonder if we can persuade Ros to give profiles and posts an "interesting" score. A few websites have it. If it is an interesting post then it becomes bolder. If it is dull or vexatious then it becomes less bold or even hidden (but you can make it visible again by clicking a button).
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Posted Date: Monday 16th April 2012
RR - I was interested in what wardy and AoS had to say so I did have a quick look at your website. There is a saying about glass houses and stones or even sin and stones - I'm sure that I'm not the first to point these out to you. Asking Prices are definitely a problem and estate agents are complicit in their inaccuracy, but not ultimately responsible for them. If owners would just stop being greedy and listen to reality, then any agent that tried to overvalue would be ignored and we could all get to a bit of sanity. As per my previous post though, how long would it take you to save up £10,000? It takes a lot of hard work and scrimping & saving for the average person to put that much cash in the bank. So, it makes SENSE to try. The real problem is that property owners generally prefer the agent that says "No problem, sir, we guarantee we'll get it for you" as opposed to "Well, we could certainly try it for you". Then of course you get a price reduction and possibly a sale. The two main agents in my town generally have 10% of their stock reduced in price EVERY week. The most important part of that last sentence was that they are Agents No. 1 and 2 on the leader board in terms of annual completions. As a business plan it works. I would love to know how many properties on your website get price reductions before they sell. I would love to know what percentage of properties on your website actually sell. BTW, your website isn't fantastic ;-) Mind you, that said, even my microsite seems to have an issue, so I suppose that I should probably keep my own mouth shut!
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Posted Date: Tuesday 17th April 2012
Apparently, if you are clever, you can incorporate your own logo into a QR Code. The contain up to 30% error checking so you can make up to 30% of the "dots" incorrect and it still takes you to the right place. Advice from XMKTinternet http://www.xmkt.co.uk - we are working on it now.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th April 2012
That'll work. I'll just get my trowel.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th April 2012
I've been the one sorting this out for where I work. We have got a very simple solution, make it small (but big enough to read). Take the address off? Easy - my EPC guy sends me 3 versions: the full EPC as a PDF, the first page (no address) as a PDF, and the first page (no address) as a JPEG. Takes less than 5 minutes to prepare he tells me. Then I upload the JPEG into my computer software which uploads to the portals as one of the photos for the property and it gets automatically added to my printed details. Compliant on RM and FAP, compliant on paper... Very simple, very straightforward, takes me just a few extra clicks and my DEA just a couple of minutes. Why all this fuss for goodness sakes? Is it just another thing to whinge about because there isn't much else to do?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 25th April 2012
Oh BTW, from what I have read... If the details include the complete postal address then so should the EPC. If the details DO NOT include the complete postal address then neither should the EPC. Therefore - no problem... Just keep doing what you are doing already but with one small extra step.
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
Properly off topic, but what can you do? In the meantime, Happy Star Wars Day! May the Fourth be with you. Slightly more on topic, I can see that transaction levels in Surrey bear this out. Prices have remained steady, transactions are somewhere between 25% and 33% of normal depending on area. London is buoying up the overall transaction figures. There is a fee war going on which is just MENTAL! Oh and every sales agent is now a letting agent. I cry DOOM, but only because this will probably continue for another 5 years... Happy Days
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
Where, when and how. I'm an estate agent, I do not call reading this stuff in EAT being "issued with clarification". I call it finding it out for myself! I am duly registered with Money Laundering and all of the other legal requirements so that I can open my front door. This whole thing is a complete FARCE. Even Charlie Chaplin couldn't have been this slapstick. Laurel & Hardy could have made a living from it. It's a complete JOKE.
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
There is one major difference between a JPEG and a PDF. A computer can index a PDF file very easily and quickly. Whilst it is still possible with a JPEG it is far from simple. So, the nasty people who are checking that we are complying with their stupid laws can get a computer to see a PDF file and say "That agent is compliant" whereas if you use a JPEG they will have to read it for themselves. I say that everyone should stop using PDFs straight away because the workload would make the job impossible to cope with. VIVE LA REVOLUTION!
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
I have worked out a very simple way to extract the first page of an EPC from the original PDF which is good enough quality to use and then turn it in to a JPEG. Save Landmark PDF to your local hard drive. Open PDF file using Adobe Acrobat. In the menu bar click edit and choose "Take a snapshot" Go to the top left of the first page of the EPC, left click and drag the box to bottom right corner and let go. If Acrobat doesn't automatically copy it for you, right click anywhere in the selection box and choose Copy. Open ANY painting program (Paint, Paint.net, GIMP, Photoshop - seriously any image manipulation software) and paste in the image. Save file Edit if you need to remove address. Job done
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
To Gordon Brown I assume that you are not The Gordon Brown, responsible for getting us in this mess in the first place? If you are I'd have you hung, drawn & quartered. And I'd have your mate Tony sent to the Hague for War Crimes. That said my definition of "normal" is average sales volume averaged between 2000 and 2006. By County, not UK wide. Some years were good, some poor, and sales volume remained remarkably constant...
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
To Dave Property prices in the UK are categorically NOT going to fall off a cliff. They will remain static for the next 5 -10 years. Which will be the equivalent of a 30% drop in value since March 2008. Caused by inflation. You are welcome to review my previous posts to see that I have been saying this for well over a year. Property values are falling, but slowly and calmly. Prices are static. No cliffs involved at all and a very cogent strategy by the government to deal with the fallout from the idiot "light touch" regulation of your namesake.
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
Oooh, look at me, who's in a stroppy mood today.
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
Sorry Dave, I meant Gordon for the namesake.
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Posted Date: Friday 4th May 2012
Death and taxes? The only sure things in life... The big thing missing here is the VALUE of proerty. Prices schmices, they are relatively irrelevant (I quite like that...) The value of the average home has dropped by 9.9% as per article a couple of weeks back. Caused by the effects of inflation.
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Posted Date: Friday 11th May 2012
Only 37%! Where I am DPG Insight shows that over 50% of properties have received a price reduction. Of the properties that have accepted an offer it rises even further. I work in an area of "price rises" caused by desperate silly estate agents using it as a tactic to get people to sign up. VERY depressing. Oh, and I know you read my comments Mr. Competitor (you KNOW who you are) - start behaving yourself! Love & kisses XXX
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Posted Date: Friday 11th May 2012
You know, I hadn't noticed them bowing IN... You can't miss what you never had. Hey ho!
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Posted Date: Friday 11th May 2012
But real world property values will continue to decline. That is of course assuming that Spain doesn't go POP! The news that the Spanish Government just did an RBS to Bancia and still have not got to grips with the consequences and results of their property building boom is VERY bad news for Europe as a whole and like it or not, Britain is part of Europe. I love the idea of optimism, but stupid, unrealistic optimism just makes my blood boil. Don't try and talk the market up, just don't talk it down. Sleeping dogs lie, keep your sharp stick to yourself.
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Posted Date: Monday 14th May 2012
They obviously owned some interesting and under or unused IP (intelectual property) that Zoopla worked out would help give it a boost against Rightmove. The users are important no doubt, but they were probably Zoopla or RM users too. It is possible that the historic data that UMS had is useful for the Zoopla "Values" bit.
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Posted Date: Wednesday 16th May 2012
@Chris Holmes et al This is a STUPID, unthought out part of a generally irrelevant (to the consumer - not to government policy - think carbon emissions targets...) law. In fact, if you think about it, it is actually FORCING estate agents to infringe another law: The Data Protection Act. Which has much stiffer penalties. Which law should I break?
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Posted Date: Wednesday 16th May 2012
@Chris Holmes BTW I am assuming from your attitude that you have never, EVER broken even a tiny law. You have never broken the speed limit. You have never allowed you dog to poo on the pavement. You have never been caught short and taken a pee in a bush. You have never been drunk in a pub. You have never broken an egg at the sharp end. You have never eaten a mince pie on Christmas Day. All of these things are currently illegal under British Law. Careful how you respond, you could end up at Her Majesty's pleasure. I have to say that that was a lot of fun!
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