New estate agency comparison website to launch |
Monday 31st October 2011
A new estate agency comparison website is getting set to launch to consumers. It will also feed listings leads to agents – but only ones that have achieved high customer ratings.
The site is currently ‘live’ in terms of recruiting agents. It is free to join, although agents will be charged for leads. The agent can decide what type of leads they want – for example, size of property – and can also decide whether to receive the lead exclusively.
Not a review site which ‘names and shames’, WhichPropertyAgent is aimed at landlords and sellers who are planning to instruct either an estate agent or letting agent within the next three months.
It allows them to identify the four most suitable agents to sell or let their particular property, based on ratings by landlords and sellers.
After over a year in development, which has included testing with users and agents, the site is now live.
Founder James Eardley, 28, said: “Our mission is to make it increasingly difficult for low-quality agents, who offer a poor service and cause damage to the reputation of the more professional operators, to attract new business from vendors and landlords.
“This new comparison service – which we believe is the first of its type anywhere in the world – will benefit all concerned by allowing property owners to find the best agent for a particular property, or property portfolio.
“It will help the UK’s top performing estate and lettings agents to maintain their reputation for high professional standards, grow their businesses and attract a substantial increase in new inquiries and referrals.”
Eardley said he spotted a gap in the market while working as general manager for property marketing company Artful Lodger in Sheffield.
He said: “It struck me that there are lots of websites which help people to find somewhere to live, but none which put property sellers or landlords in direct contact with the best agents in their area.”
WhichPropertyAgent uses a system of ratings based on key criteria and which are allocated for individual properties, to individual agents.
Eardley said: “It is clear that WhichPropertyAgent can help agents to improve their service offering, by highlighting areas of development fed back by vendors or landlords.
“They also benefit from qualified leads from a trusted source.
“The site is safe and secure and we have a robust security system in place to prevent any misuse of the site, such as fake inquiries or ratings.
“For example there is a seven-day time delay after a rating is left before it is added to the agent’s account, so that the agent can verify they dealt with the property they have been rated for.”
Registration on the site is free for all agents, with no monthly fee. Instead, they are charged for leads. Agents can dispute any leads which were inappropriate to their operations, and refunds will be given within 48 hours.
The site works by allowing a consumer planning to instruct an agent to enter their property’s details. In return, the user is presented with the top four rated agents for that property type, for the service level required, in that particular property’s catchment area.
The user is then presented with ratings on each of the four agents, taking into account:
• Time taken to sell or let past properties
• Price achieved for past sales or rentals
• Fees charged
• Knowledge of market
• Customer service
• Quality of tenants provided to landlord (for rental properties)
The user selects up to three of the four agents recommended and sends an inquiry directly to them.
When they do so, they receive an auto email asking them to rate their experience, based on the same criteria.
Only vendors and landlords are allowed to rate agents – not tenants or buyers.
To ensure ratings are genuine, WhichPropertyAgent tracks IP and email addresses of ‘raters’ to monitor and check abnormal usage patterns and identify any potential problems. ‘Fake raters’ will be identified, blocked and their ratings removed.
When a rating is left the agent is informed and has seven days to alert WhichPropertyAgent if they did not deal with the rated property in question. At this point the agent does not know the rating score.
Eardley is ambitious, targeting a total number of 5,000 agents on the site by the end of the year. He claims 1,500 have already signed up.
For details of charging and more on how the site works, look here.
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Mr Eardley: "Agents don't have anything to lose from being with our site... it is not possible for "A dodgy review could be posted by ANYONE " as we have measures in place to stop fake ratings.... we simply reward to the 4 most suitable agents for a particular property with new business"
Sorry - doesn't wear with me - and as far as I am concerned THAT is your problem. You see (you will probably not already know...), I am NOT an Agent. So, to me, this should be a good idea and I should be well up for it. I have nothing to fear about dodgy reviews - but I DO remain wary of fake ones - and I cannot for one second see that you will administer this site in such a way as to sort out the genuine from the bogus. On the other side of the coin, and following on from Puzzled...'s observation, say that a GENUINE bad review is posted - and the Agent disputes it. What then? You say you ask the rater to prove that they did in fact deal with the Agent. What proof will you accept? I would also agree (painful though it is... ;o) ) with the observations that Unhappy Chappy listed, with the exception of item 2. I am sure however that he will explain that one to me slowly as I am but a thick northerner! I will watch with interest. Only time will tell, I guess..... |
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To anonymous:
"This site is so full of nobs it's unbelievable" Nobs or knobs? |
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@ Industry Observer
I'd love to say it was a deliberate mistake but alas, it was the law of the sod that made me typo there. Ha ha. It happens to the best of us; even your good self makes the "biggest" occasional Freudian slips in your posts ;) We operate on a branch by branch basis not on a company basis, as certain branches have better track records of selling/letting certain property types in certain areas than their other branches. So we have 1500 branches signed up, not companies. That does consists of multiple branches of national agents (Belvoir, Reeds Rains, Martin & Co to name a few) but of course it also consists of lots of independents as well. It's not beyond the ability of our algorithm to take into account CMP, TPO and body membership; I explained in my previous post that our algorithm takes into account if an agent is a member of certain accredited bodies. In turn, being of member of say SafeAgent means that the agent must protect landlords and tenants money through client money protection schemes. What we're saying in regard to refunds is that is an agent isn't happy with the quality of the lead they can have their money back at the click of button, in order to give peace of mind that they will be able to contact the landlord or vendor like they have paid for. What other reason would you like us to consider giving a refund for? I'm always open to suggestions. (Bare in mind that the last question we ask the vendor/landlord is "Are you looking to instruct an agent in the next 3 months?" to help qualify it.) Thanks for your help. Kind regards, James. |
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James
Some feedback for you. 1. A person selling there first property has never used an agent before (as a seller) therefore cannot provide you with a rating for one. 2. Service is subjective - price is not 3. A good agent is an actual person not a company name 4. The performance of an agent is often impaired by a vendor.....this is of course never accepted by the vendor. I looked into doing something similar myself and decided against it, good luck, i will watch with interest |
| | Cutting edge had an interesting programme on about trip advisor.it really did bring home to me the importance of review sites like allagents.co.uk. I think the time has definitely come to accept that we are all now exposed to online scrutiny and just have to embrace it as part of our day to day life.yes they are open to abuse but when i seen the hotel owners that were on complaining about it last night and how they operated their places, i thought the trip advisor guys were spot on. The agentonly major gripe i have about allagents is that it doesn't let the agent voice their point of view |
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To James Eardley
Well done for providing a pretty comprehensive rebuttal to most points. With regards to .. 2. We track IP and email addresses of raters AND agents to stop agents leaving fake positive ratings. We also have a verified rating system in which any rating left for an agent by a user of our site carries more weight. I.e. If a landlord contacts an agent using our site and then rates them on the service they received, that rating carries more weight than a non-verified, making it increasingly hard for agents with no verified ratings getting into our top four results. In order to stop fake negative ratings from competitor agents we inform the agent they have been rated and give them 7 days to state if they haven't dealt with the rated property. During this 7 days the agent does NOT know the rating score so can't dispute on poor scoring but they can dispute if not dealt with the property in question. If disputed we ask the rater to prove they DID deal with the agent in question, otherwise the rating is removed. Generally speaking if you switch your router on and off you get a different IP address - admittedly within a range used by your ISP - but this is a crude way of trying to identify anyone and if I wanted to leave a fake rating I'd use my IPhone or my computer at home, instead of work, or go round a friend's house etc. I was tempted to leave a genuine review for an agent I used in 2003. I thought that their progress chasing department - promoted by them as 'dedicated software to monitor the progress of your chain and keep you informed every step of the way' was absolute nonsense as, when I went into the branch and asked the manager to show me who else was in the chain, what their current status was etc - he couldn't remember how to log in to that part of the system and, when he asked someone how to do it, there was no data in there. If I posted a negative review of them, you're telling me you tell them and they can dispute it? They could easily say they did not deal with the sale (8 years ago) and who would arbitrate and find out the truth. Can't believe you have the resources etc. to get into all that. |
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@industry observer, are you really that bothered, or are you just trying to pick it apart?
This site is so full of nobs it's unbelievable. |
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@James Eardley
Nice one you apologise to to Puzzled for poor English and use even worse to comment on the original error. Don't tell me that was deliberate no-one is that clever in double thinking!! Now then please answer these two from my original post:- 1. How is the claim of 1500 member agents (I assume that is individual firms not total offices though I can't imagine any multiple signing up to this) 2. Above all why is credit for holding cmp, membership of bodies and TPO etc beyond the ability of your algorithm The definition of refunds basically being all based on wrong telephone numbers is disappointing, though not surprising. After all in this "critical" period for your business you don't want to be giving money back - do you?!! |
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Hi All,
Thanks for your valuable feedback everyone. I'll try and anwer your concerns in order. Here we go: Simon Cowell: The prices of leads were set after conducting market research and asking agents what a lead is worth to them. Considering the value of a landlord or vendor to your branch I think £20 to be the sole owner of the details of a landlord or vendor who is looking to instruct in the next 3 months is a fair price. Once you have paid for a lead, the user cannot submit their details to anymore agents for 3 months. Agent Orange: Before a user (landlord or vendor) can see the 4 agents recommended for their property they must rate an agent they have used in the past. We do also incentivise with B&Q discounts also but it is this "forced" rating that is key- in order get something (results) the user has to give something (a rating). Industry Observer: 1. You're right, the price per lead/enquiry is relative cheap but that's what market research told us to price at. If we were charging a percentage of completed sale or rental income we would charge a lot more but we sell enquiries. It is then up to the agent to make sure that enquiry converts. 2. The last question we ask the user is Are you looking to instruct a new agent in the next 3 months? If they answer "no" then they cannot use our site to send an enquiry. It is in our interest to not send agents "tyre kicker" enquiries as you will be unwilling to continue receiving leads from us. 3. Agents that are members of ARLA, NAEA, RICS, NALS & SafeAgent DO get a boost in our search results as it shows they take their role as an agent seriously. Our aim to is stop rogue agents being able to trade so regulatory body memership is essential for an agent. 4. We have been live since April but due to technical problems are only just ready to launch to consumers now, therefore we did a national telemarketing campaign in April and May, and an ongoing social media campaign from April, hence 1500 agents signed up already (lots of agents out there want more properties to sell and let, so sign up rate is high). Anna: Once an agent's free leads are used up they must register a payment method in order to receive leads. The agent sets their weekly spend limit and is billed and invoiced per lead. However if the lead is uncontactable due to the user (vendor or landlord) giving invalid contact details, the lead can be disputed at the click of a button and if we find that the tel number and email address of user are invalid we will refund. But agents ofcourse need to let us know that the user's contact details are invalid in the first place. Puzzled of Tunbridge Wells: 1. In some areas there are lot more than 3 agents to choose from and with the onset of online agents, the decision isn't as simple as choosing your High Street agent anymore. Which Property Agent presents vendors and landlords with the 4 most suitable agents for their actual property based on agent's performance at selling/letting that property type in that area. Our market research showed that the most important factor when choosing an agent is actually the time it takes them to sell or let a property. This isn't something that an agent can alter such as fees or a valuation, it is down to their past performance at selling/letting properties only. 2. We track IP and email addresses of raters AND agents to stop agents leaving fake positive ratings. We also have a verified rating system in which any rating left for an agent by a user of our site carries more weight. I.e. If a landlord contacts an agent using our site and then rates them on the service they received, that rating carries more weight than a non-verified, making it increasingly hard for agents with no verified ratings getting into our top four results. In order to stop fake negative ratings from competitor agents we inform the agent they have been rated and give them 7 days to state if they haven't dealt with the rated property. During this 7 days the agent does NOT know the rating score so can't dispute on poor scoring but they can dispute if not dealt with the property in question. If disputed we ask the rater to prove they DID deal with the agent in question, otherwise the rating is removed. 3. Ok you got me there. It was poor English! Thank you, I have changed the text. I was trying to think of a better way of writing that sentence I've in t' North for too long ;) Chris Clarke: As our FAQ page states "We’re not a price comparison website. Market research has shown that landlords and vendors don’t consider fees charged as the most important factor when choosing an agent. Fees charged are however, taken into consideration." Any agent can compete on fees but it take a special kind of agent to compete on high levels of service - that's who Which Property Agent will reward. Very Often: Erm...? PeeBee: Agents don't have anything to lose from being with our site: If they are good they will appear in our 4 results and won't have anything to worry about. If they are in need of improvement the branch simply doesn't show in results but no negative effects have bestowed them (accept not getting business from Which Property Agent). All we are trying to do is, in a relatively unregulated industry, make choosing an agent a less risky task by driving the good agents new business and making the rogue agents buck up or pack up. Ray Evans: Thanks for your support during this critical time for our business. ;) Unhappy chappy: I hope some of my answers here have informed you a little more about what it is we're trying to do and how we are going about doing it. Peebee: As stated in response to Puzzled of Tunbridge Wells above it is not possible for "A dodgy review could be posted by ANYONE " as we have measures in place to stop fake ratings. We are not a name and shame review site, we simply reward to the 4 most suitable agents for a particular property with new business. Unlike Trip Advisor it is not possible to trawl through the ratings for each agent. The ratings power our algorithm only and the user is only able to see an average score for each of the 6 criteria, stated in the article, when they view the 4 results. Fun Boy Agent: In regards to "not creating any new wealth": Which Property Agent's role is to give the wealth to the agents who deserve it, rather than the ones who don't. How much "wealth" do you think your branch loses to substandard agents each month who undercut you on price and then provide a shocking standard of service as a result? Don't hate us "Internet lads and ladettes", embrace us! :) Thank you to everyone who has registered with the site today. We look forward to working with you all and sending you some new business. Thanks again for all the feedback, we're always grateful. Kind regards James Eardley Which Property Agent Twitter: @WhichAgent 0114 2133340. |
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I often wonder at the ingenuity of these IT lads and laddets who try to dream up new ways of making money from already established industries. I just wonder what they might achieve if they turned their obvious skills to creating something new. Make something, add value then sell it for a profit.
The idea of this website is to skim some money from an already decreased industry. It creates no knew wealth. It is simply an idea designed to take some money from the existing fee earners. Share your wealth my friends, and sign up, but you won’t find me in your new club. I think it is magnificent that they dream these things up, but I view it a ‘leaching’ |
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Unhappy Chappy: You and me agreeing? NOW I'm worried! ;o)
I would go one step further to say that far vfrom being a benefit to either party it could be the total opposite. A dodgy review could be posted by ANYONE - disgruntled customer (often of no doing by the Agent...); an envious competitor trying to sneak the edge - this is a potential minefield about to be tread through by a drunken elephant!! I have read reviews on the likes of TripAdvisor and have made my mind up about one thing: YOU CAN'T TAKE ANYONE ELSE'S OPINION AS FACT! I wonder, though, how many people actually DO...? |
| | Peebee and Ray - you are going to be surprised but i agree with you both. There is no tangible benefit to the vendor or agents. |
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'very often' - Oh, dear. You ARE a cheerful soul, ain't you?
So - THAT is your interpratation (NO spelling error there, by the way...) of a 'town's well established agent'. Sad, really. Sad that you had NOTHING of worth to post. Please explain - so I can try to understand your mentality - exactly WHAT do you expect to achieve or gain by Agent-bashing on an Agent-centric site? Anyway... back on subject... I am pleased to finally - and fully - agree with 'Puzzled of Tunbridge Wells' in his/her summing up of the merits (or lack of them...) of a site like this. I'll not bore you all by repeating what I have said before regarding 'rate your agent' sites. Save to say, it won't be pinned to my 'Favorites'... |
| | it is the town's well established agent who is the devious and corrupt one, you know the bloke from the golf club who knows the local councillors, the planning officer and lazy solicitors. Everything nicely sewn up right through to the professional bodies who lose any letter of complaint or the judge who hands out a stern telling off in lieu of a prison sentance to their mate who dipped into the client's a/c on a massive scale. |
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Love it.
On average, customers who use "price comparison" websites for insurance pay an additional £50-100 on top of the premium as a kick back. Considering that agents seem to be racing for the bottom on fees, even now, I can see this ending in either gouged vendors or out of business agents. Or a website that fails once its VC money runs out. Happy days |
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Can no-one write English any more?
"If the answer is "YES" then Which Property Agent can supply you with vendors and landlords who have been recommended your branch as being the best agent for their property." Had to read that a few times to try to make sense of it. How about ... If the answer is "YES", then Which Property Agent can supply you with vendors and landlords who have had your branch recommended to them as the best agent for their property. |
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Is there no end to these 'new ideas' and 'initiatives'. I mean, for heaven's sake, most agents already have some sort of reputation in their town - there is always one who is the biggest, most popular etc - sometimes two or three. Most vendors simply choose one of them or, surprise, surprise, choose the one who offers the highest valuation - or who they like when they come round to do the valuation.
Who on earth is going to look at (yet another) web site and, as someone already pointed out, wade through the negative comments. People rarely take the time to report good service (they expect it, they pay enough for it) and, when they do, I, as a punter, never trust the glowing testimonials - I'm always worried they have been planted there. Maybe agents like handing money out all the time. |
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“and refunds will be given within 48 hours”, so a Direct Debit must be compulsory and able then to take funds as they dictate and the agent then has to dispute, nice! How many time do people post good, normally these things are infested with those annoyed for some reason. Its not new.
And if genuine not allowing buyers or tenants to rate makes it meaningless surely? |
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Sorry third word last para should of course read "biggest"
1500 already signed up eh - this despite my guess being this article will be the first most agents have heard of this scheme. 1500 signed up is an awfully big testing sample otherwise where have they all come from? When SAFEagent 'only' has the same number after 6 months of massive publicity and immediate support? Hmmm - how can this number be verified James? |
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The cost is actually very cheap depending on how long any let property remains on the books. For sales it is peanuts and I am staggered that the fee seems to be the same whether for a £200K sale (where the commission could easily be say £2000) or a let (where to earn that commission on a rental of say £1000 pcm would take 2 years at 10%!!
The criteria are the 6 listed above as the somewhat garish website also refers to 6 factors for their "algorithmic" analysis and rating. Main question is are the 'top' 4 rotated or does the one with the highrest rating always stay at number 1? If so they should be charged more as logic would dictate they would always be used by the punter. Couple of glaring weaknesses. First this type of set up is common for contractors with them being rated on their work and paying for potential jobs. Trouble is because it is free to the Landord/vendor there is no measure to prevent casual enquiries which lead to nothing. Any one wanting their house decorated can use the system - then decide the quotes (though reasonable) are all too much and not bother. Refunds are all well and good but they very often do not work well at all. However at least here it is more likely to be an actual need rather than just thinking about doing something. But the niggest weakness? No credit for being an ARLA or anything member, or for having cmp, or being in TPOS which is a major benefit to the customer if the sirte's rating isn't so accurate after all. |
| | What's the incentive for a seller to leave a rating for their agent, once they've moved house? Discount vouchers at B&Q. Apart from that, why would they? |
| | mmmm look how much it costs after your first fee lead! fair idea but ive got so say im sceptical. |
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