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Agency chain to make branch closures after posting losses

 

Wednesday 1st August 2012

LSL Property Services has dropped two bombshells. First, it announced a pre-tax loss of £7.9m in the first half of this year after having to set aside £17.3m to cover claims against its valuations business. Last year, for the same period, LSL turned in a profit of £6.5m.

Separately, it is to shut some of its estate agency branches because of poor house sales. The number of branches to be affected has not been specified, but just closing them will cost the firm £1m.

Shares in the group, which includes Your Move, Reeds Rains and Marsh & Parsons estate agents, and which is in the process of buying Thames Valley-based Davis Tate, plunged 12% yesterday.

In March, LSL’s full-year results for 2011 showed that it had decreased the contingency amount from £10.9m to £9.6m – whilst at the same time, Countrywide had lowered its provision from £11.9m to £9.3m.

At that time, Richard Sexton, of LSL’s valuations arm e-surv, said that the number of claims had fallen.

But now, in its interim results for the first six months of this year, LSL says that it needs to set more money aside because lenders are making more claims.

Lenders typically make claims on repossessions if they believe the original valuation was wrong, and where they have sold the property at a loss. Many of the claims are from lenders which LSL says are no longer active in the market. Others are from lenders using aggressive ‘no win, no fee’ legal firms.

LSL non-executive chairman Roger Matthews said: “During the period we have substantially increased our PI provision following a recent deterioration in our claims experience for the high-risk period of 2004 to 2008.

“This is a disappointing development and reflects a deterioration in claims experience resulting from certain lenders using solicitors on a ‘no win no fee’ basis and pursuing claims we previously considered dormant.

“In addition, new claims are continuing at a high level, and as a result our estimation of future claims likely to arise relating to this period has also increased significantly.”

Elsewhere in its report, LSL comments that the period 2004-2008 was one of high house prices, high Loan To Value mortgages, higher risk lending and ‘considerable levels of buy-to-let and sub-prime lending’.

LSL expects the provision to affect the business over the next three years, although it says this will be largely offset by the sale of freehold properties acquired as part of Halifax Estate Agents which is expected to raise around £9m after tax over the next two years.

The loss in the first half of this year came despite a 17% growth in overall group revenue and a strong financial performance and ‘impressive growth’ on the estate agency side, underpinned by London business Marsh & Parsons.

Group revenue as a whole increased from £103.4m in the first six months of last year to £120.8m in the first six months of this year.

Estate agency turnover boomed, but this was on the back of lettings revenue, which now accounts for 61% of residential sales income.

Turnover in the estate agency division increased by 33% to £86.4m, generating £6.5m profits, up from £0.6m on the same period last year. Marsh & Parsons contributed an operating profit of £2.9m on a turnover of  £12.8m.

Despite the performance, the group is to close an unspecified number of estate agency branches.

The report says: “The residential sales market has now been operating at half of normal historic levels of volume for over four years and our view is that this is not likely to improve significantly in the medium term. Therefore we have conducted a review of our estate agency branches and decided to close a number of Your Move and Reeds Rains branches.

“These are predominantly northern branches which we have been unable to improve to viable levels of trading in the current market. The financial impact of these closures in 2012 is expected to be a £1m improvement in operating profit in the second half of 2012 and one-off exceptional costs of closure of £1m.”

The group arranged mortgage lending of £3.6bn in the first half of the year, up from £3.2bn in the same period a year earlier. This was despite a 2% drop in overall mortgage approvals.

LSL said that it remains cautious about the housing market, and that considerably tighter lending criteria, recently enforced by banks, have hit the level of sales.

The group plans to grow its lettings business.


Added by @dave on 2012-08-02 15:01:42

run out of cows to milk?
Added by dave on 2012-08-02 14:46:40

if we have deflation cash value will increase every month

in japan cash is worth twice what it was in 1991
Added by rantnrave on 2012-08-02 13:47:53

The money I have would buy a two bed terrace, possibly an end terrace where I live (West Mids). Whilst that would suffice for now in terms of family needs, it wouldn't in a few years time.

As each month goes by, I add to the savings pot, whilst house prices around me keep coming down at a modest pace. The interest on my savings goes towards paying a fair chunk of my current rent (and at the moment I don't have maintenance or buildings insurance to worry about). So, I'm in no hurry here.

And since someone is going to say that any savings are losing money vs inflation, my savings are not to buy train tickets or margarine, they are to buy a house. The rate of inflation in houses is all I need concern myself with. That's currently somewhere in the region of -3% per annum where I am.

At the present rate, I will be able to buy a family home, with cash, before I am 40. If interest rates increase by even a small amount, that will bring this goal closer.
Added by Out of reach on 2012-08-02 13:37:56

Rant, yeah of course you could, I could take Lady Kate off that royal but not good value.
Added by rantnrave on 2012-08-02 11:38:53

For the record, I can buy a house now, with cash. I'm choosing not to, because they currently represent such poor value.
Added by Out of reach on 2012-08-02 11:26:59

Rant you can't afford either the house or the loaf.
Added by rantnrave on 2012-08-02 11:18:58

"A house in 1920 was a higher price than a house in 1910, a house in 1970 was a higher price than a house in 1960 and a house in 2020 will be a higher price than a house in 2012."

Ditto for a loaf of bread. What's your point?

The issue here is not that house prices have gone up but that they have increased significantly more relative to the cost of most other things and salary levels.
Added by on 2012-08-02 10:16:34

Dave, prices rising does not mean we are in a "property bubble". It is just natural progression.

I think you will find that since the birth of christ (if there ever was one) house prices have increased. Or are we in a 2012 year bubble?

A house in 1920 was a higher price than a house in 1910, a house in 1970 was a higher price than a house in 1960 and a house in 2020 will be a higher price than a house in 2012.
Added by Its LSL on 2012-08-02 08:42:29

Oh dear Dave you are really as thick as others suggest!
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 17:32:31

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I hear they closed their office in Japan a year ago.
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I rest my case
Added by Its LSL on 2012-08-01 17:30:54

I thought this was a story about LSL, not Dave the loon?

I hear they closed their office in Japan a year ago.
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 16:50:04

another example is interest rates...rising interest rates is a risk,but when you mention that here,people just say 'they won't put up rates 'cos things will crash'

well that simply isn't good enough from a business point of view and very very naive

boe should never have bailed out the reckless at the expense of the prudent
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 16:46:55

yes, you've hit the nail on the head

anything can happen and does which is why

1/interest rates are likely to rise
2/prices will fall
3/rents will fall
4/portfolios will plunge into nequity

running a farm helps you not over extend yourself and always prepare for any event

this property bubble has just gone on and on and on and people think it will never end,but it is and will and people are in denial(worryingly in denial)
Added by Jonnie on 2012-08-01 16:21:29

@dave

As a bloke that has his finger on the pulse, knows a lot about most businesses in and around property, studies the Japanese property market carefully over the last 25 years or so, is predicting that everyone with a BTL will loose their shirt any minute now, regularly predicts that there will be 20 years of house price drops and there is no point even thinking about buying before then (while posting on an EA website daily but we will ignore that)………………as a bloke that knows all that and is so bright, at what point did you predict that the industry you are actually working in ‘12 hours a day’ was going to be selling your own product at a loss?

Its just that knocking your self out for 12 hours a day while banging away on a smart phone putting posts on here between squeezing bovine tits is a lot of graft for nothing so I assume you saw it coming and have a reason for not turning your heard of Ermantrudes and Daisys into burgers and spending all you knowledge and time ‘shorting banks’ as you claim to do in the other 12 hours a day you have spare?

Jonnie
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 14:44:37

the 17 mill provision is highly worrying at best

perhaps there is more to come on this story
Added by Rightmove Abuses Agents on 2012-08-01 14:41:44

And you wonder why?

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-1604739/Your-Move-boss-in-lending-quiz.html
Added by Rightmove Abuses Agents on 2012-08-01 14:37:16

And you wonder why?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/norwich-union-in-sex-pest-battle-6954622.html
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 13:56:47

anyone who thinks this property bubble is not bursting is mad as a hatter

prices are likely to drop 30-50% or more for flats and go on for 20 years

the downward spiral will be accelerated by the liquidation of btl portfolios as landlords of mortgaged portfolios face financial ruin

yes...they WILL come after your family home
Added by Milko thicko on 2012-08-01 13:51:52

Who would you trust LSL Ceo or idiot Dave the milkman?

Is Dave real, can anyone really be such an idiot.
Added by Nick on 2012-08-01 13:35:08

You couldn't make this up. The greed, supported by government, is finally killing itself off.
If free market forces prevailed, prices will have dropped the required 50% and we could all get back to normal. If the government keep pumping fake money at the housing market, the sick market will just be kept on life support.
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 13:09:06

m and p aquisition has saddled them with debt...m and p are likely to be a cash drain as central london market implodes

45 mill for 15 offices at the height of a bubble?
Added by Hawkeye on 2012-08-01 12:59:25

@BS I agree there are too many dimwits with no comprehension of giving a service. They call themselves 'negotiators' and fall at the first hurdle. If they worked hard at the point of instruction there would be better fees all round. 1% is laughable and I constantly say no when the corporate has been in.

With as quoted above 39% attributable to sales this needs some sharp operators. That M & P have turned in £2.9m profit the rest of the crew should be sacked. But this is good for the rest of us remaining with less competition.

I have said over the last few years our instruction rate is reduced yet the corporate wasters are reducing their fees which is a lose lose situation leading to redundancies. Good job too as they are rubbish at the job and deserve nothing less.
Added by Sibley's B'stard Child on 2012-08-01 12:54:32

Would now be an opportune moment to say 'I told you so', I wonder?
Added by @dave on 2012-08-01 12:52:10

Dont produce milk yourself, buy some cows.
Added by Couldn't Agree More. on 2012-08-01 12:51:21

Also, meant to say, doesn't LSL have their own in house conveyancers??? Maybe it's time they tasted some of their own medicine.
Added by wardy on 2012-08-01 12:48:03

I know dave! what are they like? only £6.5m in profit in agency alone. What an absolute bunch of wasters.
They have cleary lost the plot.
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 12:46:28

and they expect people like me to produce milk at a loss for working 12 hours a day

lucky I've been shorting trash like banks and property companies to make ends meet
Added by Couldn't Agree More on 2012-08-01 12:45:35

Dear Balders, Couldn't agree more. Shame the corporates and RM (peas in a single pod) have had it so good for so long! If more agents don't adopt your sensible perspective, those that do eventually move, will have little choice in securing honest advice because there will be very few independents left! It is all so short sighted and as the economy tightens further, we find greed and selfishness is spreading like wild fire.
Added by Balders on 2012-08-01 12:33:01

Well perhaps if they could of sold houses at lower prices they might have survived . I guess that will be pretty much a precursor for all Estate Agents in the coming months .Sell at lower prices or go bust .There just might be a market for sensibly priced houses out there. I'm afraid our ever weakening economy just cannot support silly high house prices. It never could anyway and that reality is striking home with a vengeance. Our economy will just get worse because we just have NOTHING to turn it around and NOTHING to offer.
Added by dave on 2012-08-01 12:29:28

what a disaster...little or no debt in 2011...bought marsh and parsons for 45 million putting them 36 mill in debt.

any company that buys a central london chain for that sort of money in a property bubble has clearly lost the plot.

when they can't service the debt they are toast

also selling freeholds to raise cash is a road to instability..ask woolworths
Added by Ignorant fools on 2012-08-01 11:39:15

Be honest would you lot knocking rather be you and have nothing or own LSL? Post your lies now!

Dont gloat they paid a higher divi than last years, pretty strong business if you have nuff brain to read the accounts!
Added by Triburion on 2012-08-01 11:23:58

Carnt lose wiv bricks n' morta can ya........; )
Added by reluctant LSL franchisee on 2012-08-01 11:03:10

got to hand it to LSL, buying all those valuable halifax freeholds for a quid and now selling them for many millions! win win for them.
Added by Chas on 2012-08-01 10:24:14

Is this the same LSL who are constantly vomitting out rising house price press releases?

If so, what's the problem. Everybody wiins from high prices.
Added by Brian Scott on 2012-08-01 10:17:27

Had to happen eventually with our local Your Move touting like crazy and offering multi agency fees at 1% when it is perfectly possible to get a significantly higher fee with a bit of effort. Our local YM office was the best agency in the area for 3 months running for new instructions and according to our records have sold a less than impressive 9% of those instructions in that time.
Added by Neil on 2012-08-01 09:56:00

WaHa is a little flippant I feel. These are people whose livelihoods are at stake, at least show a little compassion, whatever your opinion of the people at the top is. What goes around tends to come around!
Added by WhaHaHaHa....WhaHaHAHAHAHA on 2012-08-01 09:41:04

Shouldn't they change the name of this site?

How about: 'Serving Burgers Tomorrow'?
Added by rantnrave on 2012-08-01 09:05:09

"LSL comments that the period 2004-2008 was one of high house prices"

Slightly odd claim from them, given that their monthly Acadametrics house price report states prices are currently just 3% down from their 2008 peak.

(the fact that Acadametrics' client base includes Abbey, Barclays and Northern Rock is of course purely coincidental)
Added by Mr Rutley on 2012-08-01 08:42:43

No real surprise - the local Your Move office to me only ever has 2 people in it and is often closed at 5pm.

Added by watcher on 2012-08-01 07:56:59

Did you spot lsl finally admit they own nearly 5% of zoopla???
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